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KurtSF 10-10-2007 09:11 PM

25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
Button is unknown. This is just a straight up steal and c-bet. I'm ready to fold after it gets picked off onh the flop, but I turn TP and river a straight. I'm pretty sure I screwed the pooch on those streets though.

Any advice wanted, but how to play turn and river would be greatly appreciated.


Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $50.80
UTG+1: $20.40
MP1: $9.30
MP2: $18.25
Hero (CO): $25.70
BTN: $27.40
SB: $27.85
BB: $30.65

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, BTN calls $1.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($3.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, BTN calls $2

Turn: ($7.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5

River: ($17.85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $10</font>, Hero ???

RapidEvolution 10-10-2007 09:55 PM

Re: 25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
Shoves and wins money from 99/89? If Villain called flop and led turn with KQ, I'd vomit, but there are a LOT of hands we beat that will call a shove.

BBQSquirrel 10-10-2007 09:57 PM

Re: 25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
yup AI
opponent will be pot committed with any made hand

speedle 10-10-2007 10:06 PM

Re: 25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
What's to fear?

Just shove it. You will be called way more often by hands you beat than by KQ.

ship_it_trebek 10-10-2007 10:19 PM

Re: 25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
I think the turn is fine. I was wondering what people thought of the river check. I think its good as your hand is disguised. It's an obvious shove as everyone has mentioned but is anyone betting the river?

KurtSF 10-10-2007 10:38 PM

Re: 25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
So c/c turn is OK? I'm in a world of hurt if I bet and he raises. But should I keep up the pressure now that I actually have a hand?

The complete river action:

River: ($17.85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $17.20 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $7.20


I had a feeling he really liked his hand, so the c/r. A shove is pretty much a PSB, but I really don't want a fold here, eh?

Panthro 10-10-2007 10:41 PM

Re: 25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
[ QUOTE ]

River: ($17.85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)

Hero checks...

[/ QUOTE ]

nooooooooooooooo. He only has a PSB left, just shove.

CalledDownLight 10-11-2007 12:04 AM

Re: 25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
You played 2 streets well and 2 terribly.
Preflop is good.
Flop is disgusting. Bet $3.25-3.50 if you want him to fold. You have to strongarm them hoes with the cbets.
Turn is fine.
River is omg nonononono. Open shove. As played please tell me you don't really mean your thinking about calling.

KurtSF 10-11-2007 01:33 AM

Re: 25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
[ QUOTE ]
As played please tell me you don't really mean your thinking about calling.

[/ QUOTE ]

I seriously thought about it - prob split pot. But then sense prevailed and I shoved into his KQ. Weirdest hand I've played in a while.

Sounded Simple 10-11-2007 02:31 AM

Re: 25NL QJo - steal gets called, turn and river better and better
 
You were destined to get stacked on that river and everyone else seems to have the line worked out.

I will add one thing though, be sure to get some value for your loss by making a note that he calls c-bets with crap overs and bets gutshots.
Helps you get back the stack you have loaned him.


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