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Riverman 11-03-2007 05:16 PM

Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
Initial nominees:

Eric Crouch
Craig Krenzel
Charlie Ward
Steve Bellisari

HajiShirazu 11-03-2007 05:22 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
Crouch/Ward were great college QB's...

GBP04 11-03-2007 05:29 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
this list is retarded

bonds 11-03-2007 05:31 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
Was GT ever top 10? If so, Reggie Ball FTW.

dkgojackets 11-03-2007 06:00 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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Was GT ever top 10?

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Hell no.

Might have been 15 last year, probably no higher. It is impossible for any team with Ball to have been top ten.

EPiPeN11 11-03-2007 06:01 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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Crouch/Ward were great college QB's...

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EPiPeN11 11-03-2007 06:01 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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this list is retarded

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kyro 11-03-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
Anthony Morelli

BowToYourSensei 11-03-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
john david booty

AzDesertRat 11-03-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
Troy Smith ftw, or biggest loser.

Needle77 11-03-2007 06:42 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
Mike Teel.

dlk9s 11-03-2007 06:43 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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Was GT ever top 10? If so, Reggie Ball FTW.

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GT tied for the national title in 1990, but Reggie Ball was not the QB then.

EvanJC 11-03-2007 06:55 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
Matt Flynn

mmbt0ne 11-04-2007 12:06 AM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
GT got to low teens, but never cracked top 10.

And dlk, GT won the NC in 1990. Colorado had 3 losses.

Billy Bibbit 11-04-2007 12:15 AM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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Initial nominees:

Eric Crouch
Craig Krenzel
Charlie Ward
Steve Bellisari

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Those are some good choices, but they're not as bad as these guys:

Peyton Manning
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Carson Palmer
Michael Vick

TalkingDonkey 11-04-2007 12:31 AM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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Troy Smith ftw, or biggest loser.

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You are bad at sporting events

The answer this year (for a while) was Blake Mitchell

SuperUberBob 11-04-2007 02:17 AM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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Anthony Morelli

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QFT

Though to be fair, PSU was in the top 10 for like one week or something.

dkgojackets 11-04-2007 03:16 AM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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And dlk, GT won the NC in 1990. Colorado had 3 losses.

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QFT

HajiShirazu 11-04-2007 04:26 AM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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[ QUOTE ]
Initial nominees:

Eric Crouch
Craig Krenzel
Charlie Ward
Steve Bellisari

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Those are some good choices, but they're not as bad as these guys:

Peyton Manning
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Carson Palmer
Michael Vick

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You forgot about Donovan McNabb. Only reason guy got any pub at all was that he was a black quarterback.

mogwai316 11-04-2007 11:19 AM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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GT got to low teens, but never cracked top 10.

And dlk, GT won the NC in 1990. Colorado had 3 losses.

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We also finished #9 in '98.

mmbt0ne 11-04-2007 11:37 AM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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GT got to low teens, but never cracked top 10.

And dlk, GT won the NC in 1990. Colorado had 3 losses.

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We also finished #9 in '98.

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Yeah, but if anyone include JoeHam on a list of worst QBs I will hunt them down and slit their throat.

Nonfiction 11-04-2007 12:47 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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john david booty

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booty is an amazing last name though imo so he gets a pass

time4adrank 11-04-2007 12:55 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
matt flynn imo

mogwai316 11-04-2007 01:30 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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GT got to low teens, but never cracked top 10.

And dlk, GT won the NC in 1990. Colorado had 3 losses.

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We also finished #9 in '98.

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Yeah, but if anyone include JoeHam on a list of worst QBs I will hunt them down and slit their throat.

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I'll help!

And for the original question, I nominate Rex Grossman.

BingoBango 11-04-2007 01:45 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
rudy carpenter looked like it yesterday

TomCollins 11-04-2007 01:45 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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Initial nominees:

Eric Crouch
Craig Krenzel
Charlie Ward
Steve Bellisari

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Craig Krenzel was a great college QB. I would kill to have him back instead of Boeckman.

Bellisari- was he ever QB of a top 10 team? If he was, it was the preseason rankings when top 10 meant nothing. God he was awful.

Smell The Glove 11-04-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
John Navarre was pretty bad.

damaniac 11-04-2007 03:29 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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John Navarre was pretty bad.

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Not the year we were actually top ten. He was very good, not great or anything, but very good. Griese was worse his senior year, but since he didn't really have to do much other than not turn it over and complete swing passes, he gets tons of credit.

That really reminds me of how rating players by win-loss records is silly. Griese was 3-0 against OSU and was mediocre to awful in all 3 performances (9-18, 100 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs in 95), Henne's been decent to good in his 3 and is 0-3.

mmbt0ne 11-04-2007 03:44 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
I think Kyle Wright needs a little attention in this thread.

FlyWf 11-04-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
Rex Grossman wasn't just a very good college QB, he was a dominant college QB. This thread is ridiculous, you can't just name guys who couldn't translate college success into the pros.


It's Morelli, though. Yee gods is he terrible.

TomCollins 11-04-2007 04:18 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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Rex Grossman wasn't just a very good college QB, he was a dominant college QB. This thread is ridiculous, you can't just name guys who couldn't translate college success into the pros.


It's Morelli, though. Yee gods is he terrible.

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Moreilli can't be that bad, hes probably one of Ohio State's leading scorers in the last few years.

mogwai316 11-04-2007 04:20 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
Nah, I really was thinking of Grossman's college performance when I posted his name. I lived in Gainesville for a couple years when my ex was going to UF and had to watch him every week. He drove the Gator fans nuts and was overrated by the rest of the country. Calling him the worst QB for a top 10 team ever is an exaggeration, but he certainly wasn't dominant. He had the same bipolar performances as ever and should've taken a lot more of the blame than Zook did at the time. The guy constantly made terrible decisions as far as not knowing when to take a sack or throw the ball away. I was amazed that he left school early and was picked in the 1st round and not surprised at all by his poor performance in the NFL.

MacGuyV 11-04-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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[ QUOTE ]
Initial nominees:

Eric Crouch
Craig Krenzel
Charlie Ward
Steve Bellisari

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Those are some good choices, but they're not as bad as these guys:

Peyton Manning
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Carson Palmer
Michael Vick

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You forgot about Donovan McNabb. Only reason guy got any pub at all was that he was a black quarterback.

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A+

Needle77 11-04-2007 04:25 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
How is 2006 Mike Teel not getting any more hate than just me?

Annulus 11-04-2007 04:27 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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John Navarre was pretty bad.

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Not the year we were actually top ten. He was very good, not great or anything, but very good. Griese was worse his senior year, but since he didn't really have to do much other than not turn it over and complete swing passes, he gets tons of credit.

That really reminds me of how rating players by win-loss records is silly. Griese was 3-0 against OSU and was mediocre to awful in all 3 performances (9-18, 100 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs in 95), Henne's been decent to good in his 3 and is 0-3.

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I also wanted to nominate Navarre for this thread. He had his moments (thanks to B. Edwards) but few and far between. He threw the ball too hard, too high, and had way too many balls batted down at the line of scrimmage.

Wu36 11-04-2007 04:29 PM

Re: Who is the worst QB to start for a top 10 team?
 
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How is 2006 Mike Teel not getting any more hate than just me?

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I'm with you.


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