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Snafu'd 11-16-2007 01:08 AM

50NL: Value Betting 99
 
BB was 29/12/1 over 40 hands or so.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $50
SB: $51.05
BB: $70.10
UTG: $56.90
CO: $66.10

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3

Turn: ($9.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6

River: ($21.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>,

If you like it, great. If you don't, what is the worst hand you value bet on this river?

ybother 11-16-2007 01:14 AM

Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
 
since i dont like the line, i like a ck behind turn 6 bet on river

Al_Money 11-16-2007 01:16 AM

Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
 
looks fine

Snafu'd 11-16-2007 01:21 AM

Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
 
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since i dont like the line, i like a ck behind turn 6 bet on river

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Why do you like checking behind on the turn? Seems to me he's peeling w/ overs or some type of draw almost always.

octaveshift 11-16-2007 01:22 AM

Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
 
I don't hate it...

However, I can't think of any hand in his range that he would call with, so I think checking behind is probably more +EV, because it prevents him from pushing you out with the odd river CR bluff, or, heaven forbid, CR'ing you with a flush that got there.

Snafu'd 11-16-2007 01:24 AM

Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
 
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I don't hate it...

However, I can't think of any hand in his range that he would call with, so I think checking behind is probably more +EV, because it prevents him from pushing you out with the odd river CR bluff, or, heaven forbid, CR'ing you with a flush that got there.

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So what do you bet with on the river?

octaveshift 11-16-2007 01:31 AM

Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
 
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I don't hate it...

However, I can't think of any hand in his range that he would call with, so I think checking behind is probably more +EV, because it prevents him from pushing you out with the odd river CR bluff, or, heaven forbid, CR'ing you with a flush that got there.

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So what do you bet with on the river?

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That's a good question, because I think in the spot, your 99 might as well be the nuts. (So the question then becomes- if I would bet with the nuts (obv), why am I hesitant to bet with 99?)

I need to think about it a bit more.

orange 11-16-2007 01:39 AM

Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
 
very well played.

DonkeyOnTilt 11-16-2007 01:41 AM

Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
 
I play it the same, but I'm more lucky than good, so take that for what its worth.

octaveshift 11-16-2007 01:44 AM

Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
 
Let me ask you something first... although it's unlikely, what's your plan if villain pops you here?

Let's say villain check raises to $32. Are you folding 99?

I think if we can work our way backwards to figure out which hands we won't fold to a CR, we can probably narrow down the hands we should be betting with: mid-flushes, a straight, a set of 6s, etc....

I could be totally wrong with this line of thinking, so beware....


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