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phydaux 11-01-2007 07:33 PM

25NL - Nuts on the board
 
Here's one of those "once in a blue moon" hands that inevitably leads to Dave Sklansky writing a 2+2 magazine article.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($25)
UTG ($33.45)
MP1 ($9)
MP2 ($19.45)
CO ($26.30)
Button ($21.50)
SB ($11.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: ($1.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

River: ($1.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $19.2 (All-In)</font>, Hero...?

Now before you all start with the "Instacall, dumbass" posts, think of this: Before the river there's $1.10 in the pot. If I call MP2's all in, then their will be ~$40.00 in the pot. Stars rakes .05 cents for every dollar in the pot, so a $40.00 pot gets $2.00 taken off the top.

Since I'm guaranteed to split the pot, the most I can win is half of $40.00 - $2.00, or $60.00 - $6.00, or $80.00 - $8.00.

So the best I can hope for is to call $19.00 in order to win $18.00.

During the hand I considered MP2 to be the ultimate shovetard, and berated him soundly while my action timer counted down.

However, on reflection it seems he made the best move, provided he could count on his opponents to "correctly" fold rather than pay rake.

ninjadanger 11-01-2007 07:47 PM

Re: 25NL - Nuts on the board
 
i hate folding the best hand though.

Nicechase 11-01-2007 07:52 PM

Re: 25NL - Nuts on the board
 
I'd call here and say something stupid like, "Don't be a douchebag next time."

But you should fold, really.

seki 11-01-2007 09:37 PM

Re: 25NL - Nuts on the board
 
Tards don't consider rake. I'd call just to cost the guy some money, then tell him so in chat.

CalledDownLight 11-01-2007 09:40 PM

Re: 25NL - Nuts on the board
 
Spite call is correct here.

Panthro 11-01-2007 09:41 PM

Re: 25NL - Nuts on the board
 
FPPs???

Semtex 11-01-2007 09:51 PM

Re: 25NL - Nuts on the board
 
interesting game theory situaton

RapidEvolution 11-02-2007 09:59 AM

Re: 25NL - Nuts on the board
 
Villain works for pokerstars. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

speedle 11-02-2007 10:51 AM

Re: 25NL - Nuts on the board
 
Screw that guy, i'm calling everytime. The 2 bucks dont affect me and i could use the FPPs.

Oh, and by the way... you're playing NL25... the guy probably doesnt even know that if someone calls the pot will be further raked. Don't overthink it :P

phydaux 11-02-2007 04:15 PM

Re: 25NL - Nuts on the board
 
Well, I'm glad to see the "spite call" option is a popular one. I called, UTG &amp; MP1 both folded and I lost around a dollar.


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