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thatpfunk 01-27-2007 04:33 AM

Rate these rivers! (warning: very bad play inside)
 
and 1 flop...

1. Villian is bad and loose. im running bad at this table so my image probably sucks.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($328.45)
UTG ($252)
MP ($133.60)
<font color="#C00000">CO ($190.25)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($200.95)</font>
SB ($206.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $10</font>, CO calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $34</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP folds, CO calls $24.

Flop: ($81) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $44</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $88</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $166.95</font>, CO calls $68.25 (All-In).

Turn: ($404.20) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($404.20) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $404.20

2. Villian is kinda laggy but ok. My image is bad here too. im not looking too LAG but im losing all the pots im in.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB ($188.45)</font>
UTG ($239)
MP ($182.95)
CO ($390.15)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($292.10)</font>
SB ($223.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($41) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($41) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, BB calls $20.

River: ($81) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $252.1 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $148.45 (All-In).

Final Pot: $481.55

3. Villian in this hand is a very aggro player pf. He thinks Im a loose crappy player probably.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($177.55)
BB ($306.90)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($380)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button ($206.25)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $16.

Flop: ($51) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($111) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($111) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $100</font>, Hero calls $70.

Final Pot: $311

4. Villian tries to play well but is just way too LAG pf and is too aggro postflop. He thinks im pretty aggro probably.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($203.90)
BB ($260.70)
UTG ($199)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($627.85)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO ($137.65)</font>
Button ($188.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $22</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $14.

Flop: ($47) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($71) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, CO calls $22.

River: ($115) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $62</font>, Hero calls $40.

Final Pot: $239


5. Villian is loose and passive and i dont really have any excuses... yikes.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">MP ($238.65)</font>
Button ($73.95)
SB ($127.40)
BB ($130)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($234.90)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, MP calls $10.

River: ($39) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $80</font>, Hero calls $30.

Final Pot: $199

6. Villian is standard tag pokerstar player.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($482.30)
BB ($196)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($375.25)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button ($169.75)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, Button calls $12.

Turn: ($43) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $16</font>, Hero calls $16.

River: ($75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $60</font>, Hero calls $30.

Final Pot: $195

7. Villian is same player as #4, looseaggro and bad.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($246.90)
BB ($254.55)
UTG ($83.15)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($398.20)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO ($85)</font>
Button ($201)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, CO calls $8, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, CO calls $14.

Turn: ($47) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $22</font>, Hero calls $22.

River: ($91) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $41 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $41.

Final Pot: $173

8. Villian is kinda looser tag but not very good. He has said multiple times in the chat that he is playing to bust me. I'm running over the table.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($43.95)
Button ($115)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($306.75)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($710.10)</font>
UTG ($223.95)
MP ($529.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, CO folds, SB calls $8.

Flop: ($22) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, SB calls $14.

Turn: ($50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $28</font>, Hero calls $28.

Final Pot: $106

Big_Jim 01-27-2007 07:27 AM

Re: Rate these rivers! (warning: very bad play inside)
 
Hand 1: Seems fine, given reads, insofar as he's bad, loose, and agro.
Hand 2: I like the turn bet. On the river, I would probably just bet like $60. I'm surprised he was strong enough to call, here.
Hand 3: Fold PF. Flop and turn look good. I like the river.
Hand 4: Weird bet sizing in this hand. I can think of guys against whom this line might be decent. This guy sounds like he might be one of them. Some history of your small bets like this would be helpful here.
Hand 5: Gross. Bet the flop. As played, bet more on the turn, as played, bet the river. This is a really lousy spot for a c/r. As played, no way I can fold top two for those odds.
Hand 6: Bet more on the river, so you can more easily fold to a raise. As played, I still think you can fold to the river raise.
Hand 7: Fold the river.
Hand 8: I think you can fold the river here, but calling probably isn't much of a mistake.

OzzyTilt 01-27-2007 07:54 AM

Re: Rate these rivers! (warning: very bad play inside)
 
Just read hand one, uhhh, jus tlet it go

thatpfunk 01-27-2007 06:35 PM

Re: Rate these rivers! (warning: very bad play inside)
 
Big J,
First, tyvm.

#1: Im thinking he is laggy enough postflop to be doing this with 55-99 and A4 a decent amount. His min raise was insta, btw.

#2: Re: push. A few 2p2rs have caught me bluff-pushing into 3 bet pots like these. Do you like it more if Im shoving a decent amount of rivers in passively played 3 bet pots?

#4. Re: bet sizing. I liked the bet sizing in this hand against this player. I had taken him to value town a few times with weird, smallish bets.

#5. Yeah, just gross. It started out as experimenting with an alternate line and then it just spun out of control.


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