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Hebel 11-25-2007 10:20 AM

10 nl flopped two pair, bet the river?
 
villain was really bad, really stationy, and really passive, 57/5/.61, so if he had a better hand he probably wouldnt raise

Value bet this river? Bet and fold to a shove?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($7.65)
SB ($5.65)
Hero ($10)
UTG ($13.20)
MP ($4.85)
CO ($11.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.35</font>, MP calls $0.35, CO folds, Button calls $0.35, SB folds.

Turn: ($1.55) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>, MP calls $1.25, Button folds.

River: ($4.05) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero?

Gullanian 11-25-2007 10:23 AM

Re: 10 nl flopped two pair, bet the river?
 
Yup, carry on betting. 50% to 100% pot

willyc 11-25-2007 10:30 AM

Re: 10 nl flopped two pair, bet the river?
 
You can't bet fold give stack sizes. Villain has about $3 behind, so any bet will pretty much commit you to calling a shove.

The board got a little scary on the river, but I think you have to assume this guy will call you down with any King all the way down to K2 and maybe even any Jack, so I think you are far enough ahead of villains range here to put in a value bet. You can make it half the pot or just put him in for a little more.

Shags 11-25-2007 10:33 AM

Re: 10 nl flopped two pair, bet the river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yup, carry on betting. 50% to 100% pot

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Agreed. I see this all the time at this level where people just call down with m/tp or maybe a flush draw, despite the odds.

Nick C 11-25-2007 10:50 AM

Re: 10 nl flopped two pair, bet the river?
 
I agree with willyc that a bet basically commits you because of the stack sizes (and also because even otherwise passive players sometimes becomes erratic once they're super-near the felt), but I think you should bet anyway. Villain may call with Kx, Jx, and busted straight or backdoor flush draws that rivered a T.

Gullanian 11-25-2007 11:17 AM

Re: 10 nl flopped two pair, bet the river?
 
At NL10 I'm happy to shove/call AI with that hand on any street.


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