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ama0330 10-18-2007 04:00 PM

**Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
FIRST ETC

GSykes 10-18-2007 04:01 PM

Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
first

PJo336 10-18-2007 04:01 PM

Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
nooo waiii man part 2???

ama0330 10-18-2007 04:02 PM

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YA RLY

GSykes 10-18-2007 04:02 PM

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I WAS LAST IN OLD BREW FIRST IN THIS ONE

SHIP THE SHERBERT

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6...hemontheo5.png

This mean I run bad

Or does this mean im gonna end up like FGators

thac 10-18-2007 04:02 PM

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In on the ground floor in what promises to be an epic thread.

Micro Donk 10-18-2007 04:02 PM

Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
1st page

PJo336 10-18-2007 04:03 PM

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it means u need to put in more hands, 10k today, gogogogo

whyzze 10-18-2007 04:03 PM

Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
im too colorblind to read ev graphs. Click on the box tab. Thats how I tell if I'm running good/bad

GSykes 10-18-2007 04:04 PM

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it means u need to put in more hands, 10k today, gogogogo

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Hahaha That would require 14 hours of play. No ty. 5k again today though. And 5k split between friday/saturday.

Then leaving uNL for good.

PJo336 10-18-2007 04:06 PM

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it means u need to put in more hands, 10k today, gogogogo

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Hahaha That would require 14 hours of play. No ty. 5k again today though. And 5k split between friday/saturday.

Then leaving uNL for good.

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http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/mly0912l.jpg

BrunoThePug 10-18-2007 04:07 PM

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Then leaving uNL for good.

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If this is the case I motion for a mod to delete your posts in this thread and free up some brew cred for the uNL crowd.

PJo336 10-18-2007 04:08 PM

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Then leaving uNL for good.

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If this is the case I motion for a mod to delete your posts in this thread and free up some brew cred for the uNL crowd.

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BREW STAND UP!!! HOLLA

21SuicideKing21 10-18-2007 04:09 PM

Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
one more day baby, and I'm off my 1 1/2 month break. anyone want to flip for rollz tomorrow?

21SuicideKing21 10-18-2007 04:10 PM

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also ship me winning the 2+2 fantasy Basketball BBV league. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

GSykes 10-18-2007 04:19 PM

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Well i can leave until i use my carpal tunnel post in here

well named 10-18-2007 04:24 PM

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...snip graph...
This mean I run bad


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If by bad you mean $200 above expectation [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

GSykes 10-18-2007 04:25 PM

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...snip graph...
This mean I run bad


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If by bad you mean $200 above expectation [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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i havent won 1500 my showdown winnings are below sklansky bucks. does this mean im fgators little brother.

well named 10-18-2007 04:30 PM

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i havent won 1500 my showdown winnings are below sklansky bucks. does this mean im fgators little brother.

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You're comparing the wrong lines. Sklansky bucks only has meaning in relation to showdown winnings, since it calculates your expected showdown winnings. You are running ahead of expectation in pots that get shown down.

The fact that your total winnings line is below the blue line indicates you lose money in non-showdown pots, although not nearly as much as in fgators' graph, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing, depending on typical game conditions.

Edit: And looking at the graph again, you're total winnings is tracking showdown winnings pretty well, so you're doing pretty well in non-showdown pots lately, definitely not even close to fgators-esque

GSykes 10-18-2007 04:33 PM

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i havent won 1500 my showdown winnings are below sklansky bucks. does this mean im fgators little brother.

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You're comparing the wrong lines. Sklansky bucks only has meaning in relation to showdown winnings, since it calculates your expected showdown winnings. You are running ahead of expectation in pots that get shown down.

The fact that your total winnings line is below the blue line indicates you lose money in non-showdown pots, although not nearly as much as in fgators' graph, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing, depending on typical game conditions.

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you own, ty

BrunoThePug 10-18-2007 04:36 PM

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PokerEV is the most misunderstood piece of software. Somebody should write a sticky for it.

21SuicideKing21 10-18-2007 04:37 PM

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PokerEV is the most misunderstood piece of software. Somebody should write a sticky for it.

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Sounds like Pokey is the right man for the job. POKKKEEYYY!!!!!

LiveNow 10-18-2007 05:17 PM

Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
i'm pretty sure the all in graph is the easiest one to understand.

NL Newbie 10-18-2007 05:28 PM

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IT MEANS YOU CLICKED THE WRONG TAB, ALL IN THE LUCK IS THE ONLY THING THAT WORKS ON POKEREV. EVERYTHING ELSE ON IT IS A BIT BIASED/SKEWED.

thac 10-18-2007 05:29 PM

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lol I think I'm running good the last week. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Sorry for bitching..

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4593/bitchzr5.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3454/bitch2lx2.jpg

NL Newbie 10-18-2007 05:31 PM

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no thats bad.

Blue below red = below expectation sir

well named 10-18-2007 05:38 PM

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IT MEANS YOU CLICKED THE WRONG TAB, ALL IN THE LUCK IS THE ONLY THING THAT WORKS ON POKEREV. EVERYTHING ELSE ON IT IS A BIT BIASED/SKEWED.

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I've heard this before, but could you elaborate? I understand that in terms of evaluating "how good am I running" PokerEV only tells a very small part of the story, but could you explain what is biased or misleading about the graphs themselves?

I am assuming that it calculates expected showdown winnings (not just all-in luck) by looking at each street of each hand and calculating ($amount_bet x %equity), is that right?
If so, the main problem seems to be whether or not it calculates equity when drawing just the next card, or expected equity at showdown if there is no more betting. Either way seems at least a little problematic, but it still seems semi-useful.

Actually, I mainly use pokerEV to easily see the difference between how much I win at showdown vs. without showdown for different situations using the filters. It's a nice way to look for situations where you may habitually be missing opportunities to steal, or situations where you may be committing too lightly.

NL Newbie 10-18-2007 05:40 PM

Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
just repeating what the maker said.

The other tabs skewed by your game style, LAG vs nit for example.

vixticator 10-18-2007 05:41 PM

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Where do you d/l ev graph?

well named 10-18-2007 05:48 PM

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www.pokerevsoftware.com

LiveNow 10-18-2007 05:55 PM

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beat: i won't move up even though i have over 100 BI's at 50NL [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

21SuicideKing21 10-18-2007 05:57 PM

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beat: i won't move up even though i have over 100 BI's at 50NL [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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taking the bldswttrs approach i see. read up on that a couple of days ago.

vixticator 10-18-2007 05:57 PM

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beat: i won't move up even though i have over 100 BI's at 50NL [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]Damn, I thought I was a nit for waiting in general for 30-40bi.

whyzze 10-18-2007 05:58 PM

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high five for being a bankroll nit!


im one too

Sean Fraley 10-18-2007 05:59 PM

Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
I have $2005 in the bankroll which means that today I attempt to graduate from the micros. Praying that I don't run bad.

whyzze 10-18-2007 06:01 PM

Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October PART DEUX
 
goodluck...thats one of the reasons I am a nit. So I dont have to immediately move down after 1-2 bad sessions.

Sean Fraley 10-18-2007 06:02 PM

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goodluck...thats one of the reasons I am a nit. So I dont have to immediately move down after 1-2 bad sessions.

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I set my point for moving down at $1500. I may well bounce for a bit.

21SuicideKing21 10-18-2007 06:03 PM

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I have $2005 in the bankroll which means that today I attempt to graduate from the micros. Praying that I don't run bad.

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gl sir. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

LT22 10-18-2007 06:04 PM

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goodluck...thats one of the reasons I am a nit. So I dont have to immediately move down after 1-2 bad sessions.

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I set my point for moving down at $1500. I may well bounce for a bit.

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how much do u play per month? If it's a lot just grind out your bankroll til its really ready

LiveNow 10-18-2007 06:09 PM

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beat: i won't move up even though i have over 100 BI's at 50NL [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]Damn, I thought I was a nit for waiting in general for 30-40bi.

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meh, i'm making pretty good money at 50nl (i played 100nl basically all of september, made a bunch, but then when on a downswing so moved back down), so i don't really feel the need to move, i guess it's bad for my progression as a player, but it's (50nl) just so damn easy at this point for me...


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