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KRANTZ 06-03-2007 04:45 PM

25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
i dont have the hh cause im reformatting my computer but i figured id post it before i forget

effective stacks are like 5500ish. my image is TAG and this is the only session taylor and i have ever played on FTP. i haven't been out of line at all so far, and this is the first pot we've played. i'm not really sure if he knows it's me but even if he does, i don't think he has a real solid knowledge of how i play.

anyway: i open ATcc UTG to 175. all fold to tay in bb, he calls.

flop: T44r

check, i bet 350, he c/r to 950. call, 3-bet? i called.

turn K (puts up backdoor hearts). he bets 1500 into like 2300ish.

action and why?

KRANTZ 06-03-2007 04:46 PM

Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
oh it's 6 handed also

johnnyrocket 06-03-2007 05:05 PM

Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
tay usually doesnt just call raises preflop OOP with nething that contains a 4 here.

this is an easy flop to steal on and i cant imagine him having JJ+, i think i 3 bet here

MDMA 06-03-2007 05:09 PM

Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
I wouldn't make the assumption that he doesn't have 45s and stuff like that here just because he doesn't play like this in his MIDSTAKES-videos, that sounds pretty retarded, and I'm sure he's smart enough to realize that checkraising here if what you said was true would be pretty horrible.

Also, he can very well turn up with an overpair here, it's in fact more likely than a 4 I'd say.

Either way, your reasoning that "I can't see him having a 4 or JJ+ here, so I 3-bet" makes little to no sense either.

AAismyfriend 06-03-2007 05:09 PM

Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
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tay usually doesnt just call raises preflop OOP with nething that contains a 4 here.

this is an easy flop to steal on and i cant imagine him having JJ+, i think i 3 bet here

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aejones 06-03-2007 05:09 PM

Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
i would just flat here and re-eval river

Ansky 06-03-2007 05:10 PM

Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x.

aejones 06-03-2007 05:19 PM

Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
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imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x.

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agree, JJ+ seems quite likely

Ansky 06-03-2007 05:21 PM

Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
oh yah when i said AA i meant overpairs etc.

KRANTZ 06-03-2007 05:31 PM

Re: 25/50 TPTK vs tay
 
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imo if we are beat on flop it's more likely to be AA and not 4x.

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agree, JJ+ seems quite likely

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agree w this

can i move him off JJ-QQ with a shove?


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