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jfish 11-17-2007 11:06 AM

i raise to what?
 
villain is krantz, at these stacks i feel like he would c/r any big hand for value. he is 28/21 so i dont think he has many strong hands here, the strongest possible is 76. 77 probably 3bets flop. he might have AK or KQ i suppose and isnt planning on folding it.

he is definitely curious and i have stacked him once when i took a weird line with a flush (2x turn overbet, 2x river overbet).

i just feel like this is a spot where he is annoying enough to be pretty well balanced vs a raise (in terms of playing back), but he still shouldnt be strong enough to deal with me here.

ok, so whats the plan?


earlier hand if it affects your decision:

Seat 1: Mailman911 ($661.10)
Seat 2: pr1nnyraid ($3,357.05)
Seat 3: Smart LAG ($1,041)
Seat 4: DMoogle ($1,000), is sitting out
Seat 5: aaupscores12 ($490)
Seat 6: Steam Roller ($950.20)
Smart LAG posts the small blind of $5
aaupscores12 has 5 seconds left to act
aaupscores12 posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Smart LAG [Kd Qd]
Steam Roller folds
Mailman911 folds
pr1nnyraid raises to $35
Smart LAG has 15 seconds left to act
Smart LAG calls $30
aaupscores12 folds
*** FLOP *** [7d 4d 6d]
Smart LAG checks
pr1nnyraid checks
*** TURN *** [7d 4d 6d] [Ts]
Smart LAG has 15 seconds left to act
Smart LAG bets $160
pr1nnyraid has 15 seconds left to act
pr1nnyraid calls $160
*** RIVER *** [7d 4d 6d Ts] [Ah]
Smart LAG has 15 seconds left to act
Smart LAG bets $846, and is all in
pr1nnyraid has 15 seconds left to act
pr1nnyraid calls $846
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Smart LAG shows [Kd Qd] a flush, King high
Seat 2: pr1nnyraid (button) mucked [Ad Jh] - a pair of Aces


actual hand!

Seat 1: Mailman911 ($1,224.20)
Seat 2: pr1nnyraid ($1,906.95)
Seat 3: Smart LAG ($2,220)
Seat 4: DMoogle ($1,000)
Seat 5: aaupscores12 ($0), is sitting out
Seat 6: Steam Roller ($1,141.20)
Mailman911 posts the small blind of $5
pr1nnyraid posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Smart LAG [4h Ah]
Smart LAG raises to $35
DMoogle folds
Steam Roller folds
Mailman911 folds
pr1nnyraid calls $25
*** FLOP *** [4c 7h Kd]
pr1nnyraid bets $60
Smart LAG has 15 seconds left to act
Smart LAG raises to $180
pr1nnyraid has 15 seconds left to act
pr1nnyraid calls $120
*** TURN *** [4c 7h Kd] [6d]
pr1nnyraid has 15 seconds left to act
pr1nnyraid bets $280

Yeti 11-17-2007 11:21 AM

Re: i raise to what?
 
drop it like it's hot

snakekilla88 11-17-2007 11:22 AM

Re: i raise to what?
 
[ QUOTE ]
he is 28/21 so i dont think he has many strong hands here, the strongest possible is 76. 77 probably 3bets flop. he might have AK or KQ i suppose and isnt planning on folding it.


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Not sure I completely agree with this logic? I can picture him having a lot of strong hands that are not folding.

aditya 11-17-2007 11:25 AM

Re: i raise to what?
 
Why would 77 3(4?) bet flop? No draws whatsoever so possibly best board to flat on. Do around 860 I guess if your intent on raising and your confident in your reads. Also, wouldn't AK always 3bet preflop, esp with your image.

Messiahkid 11-17-2007 11:55 AM

Re: i raise to what?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why would 77 3(4?) bet flop? No draws whatsoever so possibly best board to flat on. Do around 860 I guess if your intent on raising and your confident in your reads. Also, wouldn't AK always 3bet preflop, esp with your image.

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You answered your own question... because he takes non-standard lines. Interested to see some other responses

Requin 11-17-2007 11:57 AM

Re: i raise to what?
 
Lots of better hands to semibluff with in this spot, I just fold. Also he looks strong to me, don't see why he couldn't play a set this way especially with all your overbetting shenanigans.

jfish 11-17-2007 11:58 AM

Re: i raise to what?
 
ok so 3 combinations of 77, 1 of 44.

Unknown Soldier 11-17-2007 12:08 PM

Re: i raise to what?
 
i'd def give up here

Messiahkid 11-17-2007 02:05 PM

Re: i raise to what?
 
I don't think his line as strong as everyone makes it out to be here, he's not some 17/15 reg

JKratzer 11-17-2007 02:18 PM

Re: i raise to what?
 
[ QUOTE ]
drop it like it's hot

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