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evanski 11-16-2007 04:39 AM

250 BB 50/100 HU Tricky River Spot
 
KRANTZ taking the time to post a 200/400 hu hand against PA has inspired me to post a HU hand I played a few days ago in an effort to keep the interesting hands here coming (not that my opponent or stakes compare to his, but I thought this was a legitimately difficult spot, and also because Im sick fo recallme threads).

Weve been playing for about an hour. He sat down with 7k initially and ran it up to 50 (he won a flip, hit a semibluff allin, and snapped off some bluffs). He seems to play pretty well, although he doesnt VB thinly enough IMO. I have yet to catch him making a large, multistreet bluff, although hes made a lot of CBs, 2 barrels, and even c/r river bluffs. All-in-all though, Id say hes on the tight side post flop for a high stakes HU player.

I think everything is pretty standard until the river. Im totally thrown off here by his overbet push. I think that hes a good enough player to be conscious of his image and to know that pushing with 22 and maybe even 99 is probably pretty bad (ie it will be hard for him to be called by worse, and I think he misses a lot of value). But I also have a hard time putting him on any sort of hand range as I would expect him to raise most of his nut/near-nut hands on the turn.

Seat 3: Hero($34,096.50 in chips)
Seat 10: Villain($24,003.50 in chips)
Hero Dealt (QD,9C)

ANTES/BLINDS
Villain posts blind ($50), _NormanChad posts blind ($100).

PRE-FLOP
Villain bets $200, Hero calls $150.

FLOP [board cards: 3S,QS,AC ]
Hero checks, Villain bets $450, Hero calls $450.

TURN [board cards: 3S,QS,AC,9D ]
Hero bets $1,100, Villain calls $1,100.

RIVER [board cards: 3S,QS,AC,9D,QC ]
_Hero bets $3,350, Villain bets $22,203.50 and is all-in, Hero???

ike 11-16-2007 04:52 AM

Re: 250 BB 50/100 HU Tricky River Spot
 
I can't put him on a hand. I'd call. Even tighter players have it in them to make a spewy bluff here once in awhile. I find that easier to believe than that he flatted AQ or AA on the turn.

edit: it also matters that your hand doesn't look nearly as strong as it is, this makes it less likely that he's going for giant value with aq imo.

gordongecko 11-16-2007 05:13 AM

Re: 250 BB 50/100 HU Tricky River Spot
 
I would be pretty sick in this spot, but I dont see folding. He could have AK, and figured you missed your flush, or trash and figure you missed your flush, but a shove seems pretty out of line here. I dont play these limits, but I dont see laying this down given the action. AA/AQ always raises that blank turn right? I would love to see the results of this hand, but I dont think it really matters because I cant see any hand other than a bluff making sense here given the turn call.

Tilt2469 11-16-2007 05:17 AM

Re: 250 BB 50/100 HU Tricky River Spot
 
Id call!@

Terkman 11-16-2007 05:22 AM

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Sasuke 11-16-2007 05:25 AM

Re: 250 BB 50/100 HU Tricky River Spot
 
As I read it, hero is norman [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Terkman 11-16-2007 05:34 AM

Re: 250 BB 50/100 HU Tricky River Spot
 
that explains things

yocrackattack 11-16-2007 06:03 AM

Re: 250 BB 50/100 HU Tricky River Spot
 
This def isnt AK as there's no need to turn it into a bluff- It's a showdown hand after all. This is obv either a straight bluff or a straight VB with the top 2 hands- this is because poster seems to think the opponent doesnt VB thin (and here something like bottom full is def thin). So the real question is does he have the stones to bluff-shove here?

tcorbin16 11-16-2007 06:51 AM

Re: 250 BB 50/100 HU Tricky River Spot
 
i dont think hes bluffing just a matter of whether he will do this with 99 or 33 or like KQ? maybe meh? he seems kinda donkish with the minraise pf... does he do that with AA AQ?

zeebo theorem... cant fold a fh ha

evanski 11-16-2007 06:54 AM

Re: 250 BB 50/100 HU Tricky River Spot
 
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i dont think hes bluffing just a matter of whether he will do this with 99 or 33 or like KQ? maybe meh? he seems kinda donkish with the minraise pf... does he do that with AA AQ?

zeebo theorem... cant fold a fh ha

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Hed been making it 2.5 bb's everytime he raised preflop. On a sidenote, I think that making it 2.5bbs from the button hu is actually more optimal than 3, even though I dont do it. But thats neither here nor there.


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