10NL - 33 flops set, but tricky spot
 

I hope you guys don't mind me making so many hand posts. I figure this forum has so few of them, it's not like I'm drowning out anyone else's posts. If it's a problem just let me know.

Ok, villain was 40/10/16 after 48 at the time. My only note was that he made a psb in an unraised pot on the flop with the nfd. I guess that's not much of a note...haha. Anyway on to the hand:

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($7.30)
BB ($9.85)
UTG ($5.35)
Hero ($15.50)
Button ($4)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, SB (poster) calls $0.30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($0.90) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.65</font>, SB calls $0.65.

Turn: ($2.20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.

River: ($6.20) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4.25 (All-In)</font>, Hero...

Comments on all streets welcome.

Re: 10NL - 33 flops set, but tricky spot
 

Hey Akak,

pf + flop are fine. On the turn the pot is $2.20 ($3.20 when we bet) and villain has $6.25 left. Either we expect villain to pay off with a wide enough range that we want to get him allin, in which case we need to pot the turn and "shove" river for his remaining ~$4, or we want to pot control the turn and ck behind to make sure we don't double him up when he has a straight.

It's difficult to know when to change one's expectations for the hand. On the flop we're 100% steaming ahead in "Lets stack him!" mode, but once the turn hits we probably only want one more modest bet to go in against most players. His min-cr looks very much like a straight, the classic bad-player pot-build move.

My one concern would be that because you bet so small on the turn he does not put you on a straight, and is melting down with some bizarre 1pr/2pr hand. Checking the turn saves us f rom this spot, because we can call a river bet/bluff confidently b/c the pot is still only $2.20.

The best part about checking behind the turn is that you will still stack him the times you fill up and he has a straight, since he will not put you on a set. He'll value-bet the river and you can raise him allin and he will crying call.

Surf

Re: 10NL - 33 flops set, but tricky spot
 

Surf,

Wow, great analysis and very enlightening. I've never considered pot control checking behind-type stuff with hands greater than top pair, but here it is perfect. On the turn, my commitment decision should have changed, and I should have been concerned with keeping the pot small.

As played, do you fold the river? If an Ace hadn't dropped I probably could have layed it down, but the likelihood that he just hit 2pr with A7s or something like that combined with my pot odds convinced me to call.

Also, what forum are you a mod in?

Re: 10NL - 33 flops set, but tricky spot
 

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As played, do you fold the river? If an Ace hadn't dropped I probably could have layed it down, but the likelihood that he just hit 2pr with A7s or something like that combined with my pot odds convinced me to call.

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As played I fold the river, though I'm not thrilled about it because our tiny turn bet may have convinced him to do something irrational. if he were $2.50 shorter I would probably cry-call.

The A is irrelevant since the only way for him to make 2pr would be to bluff-min-cr the turn with a split Ax 1 pair, which i think is pretty unlikely.

I'm a mod of Mid-high shorthanded limit.

Surf

Re: 10NL - 33 flops set, but tricky spot
 

grunch
bet more on the flop, psb at least.

I would probably check behind on the turn, it can get real tricky if you bet and get raised(as seen in the hand), and call a psb or less on the river UI (obv push if you make a boat or better).

As played, I fold the river.

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bet more on the flop, psb at least.


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3/4x is my standard c-bet. Unless I know villain is completely braindead, I always c-bet this amount to avoid being exploitable.