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2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
Hey!
Need your opinion, how would U play it. guys seems solid, I didnt make many stealing raises earlier hand: #1 I'm ss, initial pot 5100 push or fold? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx UTG (t53865) Button (t113526) SB(Hero) (t17314) BB (t85295) Preflop:Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t12000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB ??? </font> Hand #2 Call or Fold? Should I push earlier or jsut call ? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx BB (t26801) UTG (t120526) Button (Hero)(t41578) SB (t81095) Preflop:Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t12000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333"> raises to t26601</font>, Button ??? |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
Hand 1--Fold and then push the next chance you get.
Hand 2--You're getting 3 to 1 pot odds, easy call. You might consider just pushing on the button and not having to worry about calling a reraise since you'll be priced in anyways. |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
Hand 1 I probably fold, but I suck at restealing. Hand 2, you're priced in unless you are against AA.
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Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
#1 fold?
we're down to 4 players, my M is about 3,5 and effective M is much lower. I know he raises but is it better to fold and hope I would get something good in next 2 round ? |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
No, pushing with low M mainly relies on fold equity. He is incorrect to call your push here no matter what his cards are. Pushing here does not cause him to make a mistake, and you are a dog to his raising range.
No matter what two cards you get next hand, pushing is +EV. Just wait; you don't necessarily need something "good". |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
ok, thanks, that's what I asked for.
pushing nexh hand is more +EV than pushing that A4off #2 easy call of course, but would U play it diffrent? push instead of raise ? |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
Yeah, I'd push
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Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
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ok, thanks, that's what I asked for. pushing nexh hand is more +EV than pushing that A4off #2 easy call of course, but would U play it diffrent? push instead of raise ? [/ QUOTE ] This is really close and depends on table dynamics. I doubt there's ever a situation where one play's much worse than the other. |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
#1 I'd fold and try and get it as the initial raiser ASAP
#2 Call quickly, his range is wide enough where you have to call with the odds youre getting |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
1) fold and all-in the next time i am first to act with any 2 cards
2) you're obligated to call with pot odds there. i personally just push that when i act initially preflop but i play hardcore pushbot style when i'm around 10xBB late in tournaments. |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
thanks for all comments
Results: #1 I pushed he called with AKoff flop 763 turn 5.... #2 I called, he had AK flop xxx turn x riv 7 Both hands vs the same player. I managed to finish 2nd [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Can I finally win that s&g ? |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
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1) fold and all-in the next time i am first to act with any 2 cards 2) you're obligated to call with pot odds there. i personally just push that when i act initially preflop but i play hardcore pushbot style when i'm around 10xBB late in tournaments. [/ QUOTE ] |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
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thanks for all comments Results: #1 I pushed he called with AKoff flop 763 turn 5.... #2 I called, he had AK flop xxx turn x riv 7 Both hands vs the same player. [/ QUOTE ] God I hate AK. I'm surprised you weren't playing against me somehow even though I didn't play last night. |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
#1 - fold
#2 - push, instead of raising, as played, you have to call |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
I wouldn't say necessarily good.
Almost just pushing w/any hand when first to ACT. Suppose roughly those 50%+ Hand Range ? |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
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Suppose roughly those any 2 cards Hand Range ? [/ QUOTE ] Seriously. I'm all in when I'm first to act with any 2 cards if I fold here, and probably 2 hands in a row. Hero will be button next time, and I'm pushing if CO folds...and I'm pushing a wide range from CO if nobody calls the button push. Hero is about to run out of FE if he doesn't steal a lot or get lucky and double up. Hero will have roughly 0 FE at the next blind level or even if he just has to go through the blinds one more time and loses another 4500, he needs to accumulate chips NOW. |
Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg
After folding the first hand, you REALLY hope that UTG folds and then you HAVE to push any two. Your stack can still damage the other two stacks (barely). If I successfully steal on the button I might fold some of the really bad hands UTG because big stack will be big blind and will call with almost any two.
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