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STOPRAKEGREED 04-04-2006 11:35 PM

TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
Mason argued along time ago that over raked games are bad for the a card room in the long run. Party and Full Tilt and many of the other rooms are simply raking far too much money. We as a community have to tell Howard Lederer and Phil Ivey and Jennifer Harmon and ALL of the friends of Full Tilt that what they are doing isn't cool. We supported the creation of these "poker personalities" and now they are greedily raking as much as they can. They make millions and those of us who have been their friends for a long time and taught them most of what they know return the favor by forgetting us. SO NEXT TIME YOU FIND YOURSELF AT A TABLE WITH ONE OF THESE GUYS TELL THEM THAT YOU ARE NO FRIEND OF FULL RAKE POKER.

d-baggery 04-04-2006 11:38 PM

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STFU

Anders 04-04-2006 11:38 PM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
FULL RAKE POKER RAN OVER MY DOG WITH A CAR

STOPRAKEGREED 04-04-2006 11:42 PM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
Which friend of full rake are you? No, I won't stfu. Get used to hearing it. I hope that all these guys in addition to having to hear all of the world's bad beat stories have to hear about their excessive greedy rakes.

A_Junglen 04-04-2006 11:47 PM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
Yum Yum, Rake it up!

STOPRAKEGREED 04-04-2006 11:49 PM

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Sounds like Mr Lederer himself.

bobbyi 04-04-2006 11:49 PM

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We supported the creation of these "poker personalities"

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When did I do this?

Davey 04-04-2006 11:51 PM

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*** You are ignoring this user ***

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^^referring to OP obviously.

STOPRAKEGREED 04-04-2006 11:52 PM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
When you turned on the WPT channel.

pokergrader 04-04-2006 11:59 PM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
I will play poker wherever I can make the most money. If the rake is more by the players are worse, overcoming an extra $1 rake per hand is easy when the big bets are $20.

If there happens to be a rake free site that is just as soft with good software, then I will play there. I however do not expect such a thing to happen.

STOPRAKEGREED 04-05-2006 12:01 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
Would you pay $5/hand? How about $6?

Barrin6 04-05-2006 12:15 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
I AGRESS WITH THIS GUY. GIVE BACK MY MONEY!
chanting
DOWN WITH RAKE!
CAN'T TAKE MY RAKE!
DOWN WITH RAKE!
CAN'T TAKE MY RAKE!
DOWN WITH RAKE!
CAN'T TAKE MY RAKE!

Leader 04-05-2006 12:33 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
SO NEXT TIME YOU FIND YOURSELF AT A TABLE WITH ONE OF THESE GUYS TELL THEM THAT YOU ARE NO FRIEND OF FULL RAKE POKER.

[/ QUOTE ]

Stake me and I will.

Gildwulf 04-05-2006 12:37 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
Full rake killed my parents, and raped my dog

gambelero2 04-05-2006 12:44 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
I have also been saying this for years. Many sites just plain rake too much.

As you can see by the quality of responses to your very important argument, however, most donks just don't care about the rake. They don't even understand that the rake busts the fish much faster and ruins the games over time.

One way to get around this is to specialize in tourneys and refuse to pay the rake. Unfortunately, I don't believe I've ever seen a rake war. I've seen rooms build a strong following by using a low rake (ala stars) to attract players to particular games (remember the $1 rake max 15-30 razz games at the Dust during the Casino era). I've never seen one room respond to another by cutting the rake. They compete very heavily on bs promotions, but never on the rake itself.

Thus, you can expect few intelligent responses. The donk's are just too stupid to realize how much the rake affects them.

STOPRAKEGREED 04-05-2006 12:47 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
How about this? To the tune of Camptown Races:

To play you got to pay the rake, Doo-da, Doo-da.
But for God's sake, we need a break, Oh, de doo-da day.

Full Rake rakes too much.
That's what I say.
I always hated corporate scum.
So it's poker I play.

The live ones are all going bust, Doo-da, Doo-da.
But Howie and Phil don't give a damn, Oh, de doo-da day.

We got lots of cash.
Screw you all we say.
We will rake the games to death.
Every freaking day.

Howie is on TV again, Doo-da, doo-da.
Saying when to raise the turn, Oh, de doo-da day.

Teach them what to do.
Teach them what to play.
Soon every body left will play quite well.
And the rake will dominate.

Howie and Phil are all brands now, Doo-da, doo-da.
Like Snickers or Starkbucks, Oh, do doo-da day.

They are a real joke.
Not real people anymore.
So when you see them at tournament,
Tell them what they are good for.

primetimenole 04-05-2006 12:49 AM

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FULL RAKE POKER RAN OVER MY DOG WITH A CAR

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LMAO

2+2 wannabe 04-05-2006 12:51 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
YOU'RE A [censored] JOPKE

IF YOU DIDN'T START SINGING LIKE A PRIMO DOUCHEBAG I'D LISTEN

DOWN WITH STOPRAKEGREED

STOPRAKEGREED 04-05-2006 12:52 AM

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another friend of Full Rake Poker?

Barrin6 04-05-2006 01:07 AM

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RAKE TOOK MY 2 DOLLARS AND STOPPED ME FROM BY BUYING THAT EXTRA CHEESEBURGER THAT I WANTED!

STOPRAKEGREED 04-05-2006 01:09 AM

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Make light of it, but it's costing you more than you know obviously.

Leader 04-05-2006 01:11 AM

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Make light of it, but it's costing you more than you know obviously.

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We all have poker tracker. We see how much rake we pay everyday. You do what poker tracker is?

d-baggery 04-05-2006 01:12 AM

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Make light of it, but it's costing you more than you know obviously.

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false. It's not costing me anything as of yesterday.

send_the_msg 04-05-2006 01:14 AM

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STFU

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STOPRAKEGREED 04-05-2006 01:21 AM

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Sorry, friend of FULL RAKE. I won't. Get used to it.

Leader 04-05-2006 01:28 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
STFU

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FULL RAKE 04-05-2006 01:28 AM

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ENOUGH OF THIS SMEAR CAMPAIGN YOU DOUCHEBAG, WHAT DID I EVER DO TO YOU?!

Leader 04-05-2006 01:28 AM

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ENOUGH OF THIS SMEAR CAMPAIGN YOU DOUCHEBAG, WHAT DID I EVER DO TO YOU?!

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gregatron 04-05-2006 01:28 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
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How about this? To the tune of Camptown Races:

To play you got to pay the rake, Doo-da, Doo-da.
But for God's sake, we need a break, Oh, de doo-da day.

Full Rake rakes too much.
That's what I say.
I always hated corporate scum.
So it's poker I play.

The live ones are all going bust, Doo-da, Doo-da.
But Howie and Phil don't give a damn, Oh, de doo-da day.

We got lots of cash.
Screw you all we say.
We will rake the games to death.
Every freaking day.

Howie is on TV again, Doo-da, doo-da.
Saying when to raise the turn, Oh, de doo-da day.

Teach them what to do.
Teach them what to play.
Soon every body left will play quite well.
And the rake will dominate.

Howie and Phil are all brands now, Doo-da, doo-da.
Like Snickers or Starkbucks, Oh, do doo-da day.

They are a real joke.
Not real people anymore.
So when you see them at tournament,
Tell them what they are good for.

[/ QUOTE ]
Thanks. This is the most retarded thing I have read all week.

MicroBob 04-05-2006 01:29 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
Ummm...you're wrong.

The players around here do care about the rake. A lot in fact.
That's why so many are trying the new rake-free site.

1. Tourneys have rake too. What are you talking about "not paying the rake by playing tourneys?"

2. reload bonuses are pretty much the same as a significant rake-reduction.

Alobar 04-05-2006 01:36 AM

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ENOUGH OF THIS SMEAR CAMPAIGN YOU DOUCHEBAG, WHAT DID I EVER DO TO YOU?!

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hahahaha, effing awesome

STOPRAKEGREED 04-05-2006 01:37 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
Who are you? Seems like you created a new login just now so that you could pretend to be more than one person.

2+2 wannabe 04-05-2006 01:40 AM

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ENOUGH OF THIS SMEAR CAMPAIGN YOU DOUCHEBAG, WHAT DID I EVER DO TO YOU?!

[/ QUOTE ]

wow this is awesome

STOPRAKEGREED 04-05-2006 01:42 AM

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After your website I suppose.

daryn 04-05-2006 01:43 AM

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the avatar is the best

STOPRAKEGREED 04-05-2006 01:44 AM

Re: TIME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RAKE GREED
 
I hope you have all the software. In the words of R. Waters: "WELCOME TO THE MACHINE."

Leader 04-05-2006 01:47 AM

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Who are you? Seems like you created a new login just now so that you could pretend to be more than one person.

[/ QUOTE ]

No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leader 04-05-2006 01:48 AM

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PLEASE BAN ME

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FYP

mahogany17 04-05-2006 01:49 AM

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Welcome to the forum.

Gregatron 04-05-2006 01:50 AM

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We supported the creation of these "poker personalities"

[/ QUOTE ]
When did I do this?

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When you got a picture of Phil Ivey tatooed on yr ass, you [censored] fanboy.

Oops, we are not supposed to share secrets we disclose on the mod forum. My bad.


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