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tubasteve 03-31-2006 07:06 PM

rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
I'm interested in playing the Stars $3r, $5r, and $10r. I couldn't find anything about these as far as bankroll management goes; assume I will not be using the maniac rebuy strategy, whats the deal?

Thanks guys,
Steve

LethalRose 03-31-2006 07:08 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
dont play if you cant do the maniac strategy, it is hugely +EV.


having said that for the 10r depending on your normal game i wouldnt go in with less than 2k.

timex 03-31-2006 07:09 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
This may be conservative, but I think something like 300-500 times buy-in would be reasonable.

tubasteve 03-31-2006 07:12 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
Well lets say I will be using it, how much then? I'm all about +EV. I had a whole chapter on it in my Secret System!

Steve

Fireball_AA 03-31-2006 07:13 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
The same % of the field makes money so I would keep the 50-100 Buy-in rule.

Estimate the cost of the MTT + rebuys + add-on so maybe $50 for the $10R, therefore $2,500 - $5,000.

grafyx 03-31-2006 07:15 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
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dont play if you cant do the maniac strategy, it is hugely +EV.


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You don't have to maniac, its still a great tournament even if you play somewhat tight. You need to budget at least 7 buyins per tourney though. So treat the 10r like a 70$ tournament when computing your bankroll requirement. Some nights you will only spend 30 and some nights it might go up to $150. I think my average for the 10r is about 120$ a tourney, but I play very loose and gamble it up.

LethalRose 03-31-2006 07:16 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
Id say like 5k. when I played i pretty much rebuyed until i had 12-15k then played more ABC poker until the break.sometimes you get a [censored] table who doesnt want to gamble, in that case you're screwed.

id suggest playing the 3r for a while until you get the hang of how they play.

grafyx 03-31-2006 07:19 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
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Well lets say I will be using it, how much then? I'm all about +EV. I had a whole chapter on it in my Secret System!

Steve

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If you want to be a true maniac, you need to budget about 15x buyin for the tourny and be prepared to spend up to 30x on a single tourny. This can be hard to stomach. I'd get some experience in the tourny first and play somewhat tighter.

NHFunkii 03-31-2006 07:30 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
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dont play if you cant do the maniac strategy, it is hugely +EV.

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NO NO NO

LethalRose 03-31-2006 07:36 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
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dont play if you cant do the maniac strategy, it is hugely +EV.

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NO NO NO

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wow you've totally convinced him.

tubasteve 03-31-2006 07:40 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
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dont play if you cant do the maniac strategy, it is hugely +EV.

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NO NO NO

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Any insights?

Steve

NHFunkii 03-31-2006 07:48 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
there have been many threads about it, but the maniac strategy is NOT the only way to play. You can be EXTREMELY profitable in the rebuy tournaments by playing tight aggressive poker in the rebuy period, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. the maniac strategy (allin every hand no matter what) is absolutely -EV. Whether or not a modified maniac strategy (allin with suited connectors and other decent hands) is better than simply being tight aggressive is debatable, but absolutely do not feel that you have to be a maniac.

LethalRose 03-31-2006 07:56 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
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there have been many threads about it, but the maniac strategy is NOT the only way to play. You can be EXTREMELY profitable in the rebuy tournaments by playing tight aggressive poker in the rebuy period, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. the maniac strategy (allin every hand no matter what) is absolutely -EV. Whether or not a modified maniac strategy (allin with suited connectors and other decent hands) is better than simply being tight aggressive is debatable, but absolutely do not feel that you have to be a maniac.

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you and I have different definitions of what maniac strategy is.

grafyx 03-31-2006 08:00 PM

Re: rebuy bankroll requirements?
 
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there have been many threads about it, but the maniac strategy is NOT the only way to play. You can be EXTREMELY profitable in the rebuy tournaments by playing tight aggressive poker in the rebuy period, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. the maniac strategy (allin every hand no matter what) is absolutely -EV. Whether or not a modified maniac strategy (allin with suited connectors and other decent hands) is better than simply being tight aggressive is debatable, but absolutely do not feel that you have to be a maniac.

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you and I have different definitions of what maniac strategy is.

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I think Funki's definition is the generally accepted one in the forum. Allin every hand no matter what until you get to 10-12k, then you slow down.

What is your definition?


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