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Nielsio 11-30-2007 05:32 AM

FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $322.50
CO: $135.65
BTN: $41.85
Hero (SB): $202
BB: $202.20
UTG: $72.60

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, BTN calls $2, Hero calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($6) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $15</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($36) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($36) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $22</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $88</font>



Villain is 'HailCaptainM', 22/18/4.4/661.


Forget pf btw, I think it's too loose now.

mofliedlice 11-30-2007 05:35 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
I think I've reread this a few times now and can't compute the purpose?

Keyser. 11-30-2007 05:37 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
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I think I've reread this a few times now and can't compute the purpose?

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to force him off a chop I think. I guess it's fine, I dunno. I 3-bet flop though.

bigbabyjesus 11-30-2007 05:45 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
Wow WTF are you doing just call.

He will occasionally have an ace and you'll look dumb.

He will rarely ever fold a 6 given the fact he has a full house and there's a busted flush draw.

He'll basically fold everything else except for a megarare occasion he makes a hero call with KdXd.

Just call and pick off his bluffs.

Also preflop is fine.

riske 11-30-2007 05:46 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
I kinda like it, his stats suggests that he raises his As preflop.

zuutroy 11-30-2007 05:49 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
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Wow WTF are you doing just call.





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Uhh, hero c/r'd not villain!

bigbabyjesus 11-30-2007 05:49 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
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I kinda like it, his stats suggests that he raises his As preflop.

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Probably not. I would expect most 22/18's to not raise Axs if X is 9 or below in this spot. It's possible but unlikely.

Most people get more aggressive preflop #'s by having really high attempt to steal #'s.

bigbabyjesus 11-30-2007 05:51 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
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Wow WTF are you doing just call.





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Uhh, hero c/r'd not villain!

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I suppose there should be a comma after "doing" but that sentence can't be interpreted any other ways.

Oct0puz 11-30-2007 05:55 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
I doubt he is ever value betting with a 6 on the river. So just call.

edit: or bluffing with a 6.

Fonkey123 11-30-2007 06:03 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
I am actually okay with this.

crunchi 11-30-2007 06:05 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
This looks really bad. People dont fold Full houses

DaycareInferno 11-30-2007 06:06 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
it looks ok to me, too, not that it probably makes that much difference really.

riske 11-30-2007 06:14 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
Uhh, yes, and you're still suggesting he limps an A on the button? You're contradicting yourself.

tannenj 11-30-2007 06:19 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
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I am actually okay with this.

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yup. but not with the preflop comment. i'd rather raise than fold pre.

Keyser. 11-30-2007 06:33 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
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This looks really bad. People dont fold Full houses

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even if he doesn't fold it doesn't really matter. The important thing is villain probably doesn't have an ace that often because what kind of a ace is a TAGish villain going to raise on the flop after checking in the BB? We can pretty safely assume it's not AK/AQ, and lower aces start to have a higher likelihood, yet at the same time a decreased likelihood of raising an A66 flop... i.e. he doesn't have an ace

Grandezza 11-30-2007 08:11 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
yeah he doesn't have an ace since I dont think he'd raise the flop and chk turn behind that much. i think he's valuebetting a 6 and he's folding now.

Kairos 11-30-2007 08:59 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
I think it's fine.
It's pretty much a freeroll because the only Ax hand he can have is A6 and he would have to check turn with it.

zuutroy 11-30-2007 09:45 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
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Wow WTF are you doing just call.





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Uhh, hero c/r'd not villain!

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I suppose there should be a comma after "doing" but that sentence can't be interpreted any other ways.

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Ah I had a brain melt...thought you were screaming at the OP to call the c/r, not that he should have just called instead of c/r'ing

Imrahil 11-30-2007 11:09 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
At first I was like WTF but I actually like it although people sometimes will check behind the turn w/ an A because they don't think that they will get any value on the turn. But based on his flop play I think he probably has a 6 a lot here.

Paul Thomson 11-30-2007 11:13 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
this has to work something like 70% of the time and that's not counting the times u get pushed on by an Ace.

i can't really guess at Villan's frequency. But I don't think it's + or - EV much either way.

Nielsio 11-30-2007 11:33 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
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At first I was like WTF

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hahaha

clowntable 11-30-2007 11:44 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
How is calling with 64s too loose here :O

Nielsio 11-30-2007 11:48 AM

Re: FT200 Underfull. I c/r!
 
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How is calling with 64s too loose here :O

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Look how short BTN is.


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