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crystalallen 11-29-2007 11:50 PM

HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
Is this ok?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t500 (2 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t5000)
Button (t4000)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t5000 (All-In)</font>, Button calls t3500 (All-In).

Flop: (t8500) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
.

Turn: (t8500) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t8500) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t8500

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 8c 7c (one pair, sevens).
Button has Ac 5d (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Button wins t7000. Hero wins t1500. </font>


What about this? Villain raised (without pushing) a few times with the blinds really high - I never knew what to make of it.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t500 (2 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t2500)
BB (t6500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2500 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t1000.

Flop: (t5000) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
.

Turn: (t5000) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t5000) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t5000

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Kc Kh (one pair, kings).
Hero has 4c 4d (one pair, fours).
Outcome: BB wins t5000. </font>


(just noticed the converter got the button/BB mixed up)

DMMx69 11-29-2007 11:57 PM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
i dont think this makes sense. id rather check and see a flop with 10+ BB HU. 87s doesnt play that well HU.

SAGE recommends jamming with 87s only if the short stack has 6BB or less.

I see the mixup with BB/SB. In this case id probably just fold, although if the BB is weak/passive, maybe you can call BB.

vers 11-30-2007 12:23 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
Both look fine to me. In first hand are you SB?

crystalallen 11-30-2007 12:39 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
[ QUOTE ]
In first hand are you SB?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes the converter switched them in both hands.

vers 11-30-2007 12:44 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
Yeah ok both are standard shoves for me.

DannyOcean_ 11-30-2007 12:49 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
44 is standard and 87s is standard unless he is calling redonkulously wide.

crystalallen 11-30-2007 12:53 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
Thanks.

DMMX I had to google SAGE.
I found this article. Interesting:
http://www.totalgambler.com/pokertip...e_numbers.html

rakemeplz 11-30-2007 01:16 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
Think about how often he's folding his weaker hands, your win % when called, and the fact that folding costs x chips, and you'll see why shoving wide is goooooot in hand 1.

Hand 2, 5 blinds, heads up, a pair, all in gooooooooot, dont bring that weak [censored] in my house crystal.

rakemeplz 11-30-2007 01:20 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
"SAGE recommends jamming with 87s only if the short stack has 6BB or less."

Really? I don't believe sage counts straights so it underrates shoving with sooted connectors.

Edit: Ooops, criticized crystal's article but was wrong [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img], apparently sage is only good for 7 blinds or less which is weird.

DMMx69 11-30-2007 01:52 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
[ QUOTE ]
"SAGE recommends jamming with 87s only if the short stack has 6BB or less."

Really? I don't believe sage counts straights so it underrates shoving with sooted connectors.


[/ QUOTE ]

Rake - the point is that 76s is worth 22 "points," meaning you push with 6BB or less. Not the exact value of 76s.

CheeseMoney 11-30-2007 03:00 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
WTF? Hero has 87s, not 76s, and can be pushed for over 20 BBs, and called for 6.5, per Nash EQ, of which sage is a quick approximation-- though with 7 bbs, you can shove just about *almost* anything suited, andy hand with a Queen in it or better, J7o+, T7o+, 98o.

RexWoo 11-30-2007 06:19 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
I like both.

I only fold 1st if I saw him call previous pushes with Q6 / J8 of something like that.

crystalallen 11-30-2007 09:14 AM

Re: HU Blinds are 250/500 ($5)
 
[ QUOTE ]
dont bring that weak [censored] in my house crystal.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol

That article is a review of SAGE. The authors didn't like it.

At the bottom are reviews of other systems including Sklansky's and Scott Fischman's SNG strategy.
It looks like Sklansky's was best.


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