NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

MP1: 27/19/3 - 85 hands

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UTG ($158.35)
UTG+1 ($109.85)
MP1 ($197.15)
MP2 ($304.70)
CO ($102)
Button ($97)
Hero ($128.75)
BB ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $12.

Flop: ($37) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks or bets?

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

Wait, what? What's the question? Bet bet bet bet bet.

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

How often does he not have a set or top pair here? Villain is sitting on his prayer mat saying "please don't let him have AK bc I have to call or raise any bet".

My guess is the money will go in here no matter what you do but I hope you bet it.

I would only slowplay where hy hand has very obviously crippled the deck, not so here.

GL at NL100 by the way, not that you need it.

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

Hero Bets around $26. If villian has a mid PP your probably not going to get much more anyway and he will probably raise you with most of the rest of his range

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

$28

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

Probably just c/f and wait for a better spot.

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Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

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Probably just c/f and wait for a better spot.

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Yeah. Such a sick spot.

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

3/4 pot it, just as you would with a set or anything else you'd c'bet this flop with. Villain showed K9 of hearts? =p

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

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Probably just c/f and wait for a better spot.



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&gt; betting ~2/3 pot because the villains range also hits this flop very hard, checking does not induce a bluff imo or increase the expectation out of your hand vs villain's range

&gt; min bet/f

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

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3/4 pot it, just as you would with a set or anything else you'd c'bet this flop with. Villain showed K9 of hearts? =p

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Nooo! I checked, villain bets and I check-raised him. He instanly mucks.

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

You should stay at NL 25.

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3/4 pot it, just as you would with a set or anything else you'd c'bet this flop with. Villain showed K9 of hearts? =p

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Nooo! I checked, villain bets and I check-raised him. He instanly mucks.

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Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

Bet, because when another heart comes, you won't get any more money from the villain into the pot. You want them to invest before they realise they're lost.

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

Bet in the upper range of your ussual cbet (people tend to believe you less in monotone flops), also a 4th heart will shut up the action.

Re: NL100: Nut straight, 3betted pot - extracting question
 

Another reason not to check/raise is if you just c-bet, and he's feeling super aggro, has KQ with the Kh or something maybe he raises you. Plus you will not be happy if the board pairs, and a heart or K kills your action. Check raise pretty much kills the hand unless he has a set, in which case he'll get all in anyway.

I guess if he has nothing C/R gets you the most money, but with a monster like that I'd rather assume he has a hand that can call/raise and go for his whole stack.