NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
Ok, I am new to the table, the table plays rather loose and I donīt know the villain.
<u>Question:</u> How to act on turn? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) MP1 ($24.65) MP2 ($24.50) MP3 ($26.30) CO ($21.70) Hero ($24.50) SB ($18.50) BB ($12.75) UTG ($16.25) UTG+1 ($5.25) Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.95, CO calls $0.95. Flop: ($3.70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3, CO folds. Turn: ($9.70) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">, Hero ?? |
Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
I bet/fold for 7 here. If he calls, I probably check behind river if he checks.
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Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
Check. Snap-call a bet on river. VB if checked to you.
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Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
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Check. Snap-call a bet on river. VB if checked to you. [/ QUOTE ] This was my initial thought as well, but aren't there a ton of overs that could come on river? In case villain is hanging around with overs, I'd like to charge him to draw out on me. |
Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
I agree with Rapid, I would bet/fold, don't want to let him draw for free with a pair, overcards or a straight draw.
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Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
Why would Villain check-call overs with a player to act behind him? If he does, it's prob to c/r turn, which is REALLY bad if we're bet/folding. Plus, he's already paid too much to hit a 6 outer. lol paranoiaments.
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Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
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I bet/fold for 7 here. [/ QUOTE ] level? |
Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
NOTE: Obviously nobody looked at the stack sizes. The ensuing discussion relates to when BB has a full stack.
The only reasonable straight draw is 78, which has 4 outs. 1) Do you think he always just check/shows-down river with 8 high? 2) 78 has a bunch of reverse implied odds against our hand. We lose ~7 when his four-out 5 hits. He felts to us when a two-out T hits. It's +EV to let him draw. Seriously, I'm not trying to disrespect you, but you guys really need to get over draw paranoia (which I had big time when I was first starting). Stop trying to think of how to price out draws and start thinking about how to maximize value for your hand. If you had Ace high instead of TT, shouldn't you bet/fold this turn to price-out draws and overs? |
Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
This is what happens when I post first thing in the morning before coffee. lol I hadn't noticed stack sizes before, Want, my bad. *re-reads first post) crap, no wonder why live thought I was levelling.
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Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
;-)
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Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
definitely check behind and see the river.
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Re: NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, half-stack called flop c-bet
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NOTE: Obviously nobody looked at the stack sizes. The ensuing discussion relates to when BB has a full stack. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Yeah, and have a look at the title of my post: "NL25 TT overpair, turn paires board, <u>half-stack</u> called flop c-bet" Anyway, thanks to you all! So, whatīs the play now? I shoved, but Iīm not sure if this is correct. Wasnīt sure what to do next and just remembered that the leitmotiv of recent answers to my questions seems to be that I am playing so-so hands much too passiv. Anyone for betting half-pot (and calling a raise if need be), in the hopes that a bad player canīt let go his overcards? Also, is he really good here so often we cantīt bet at all and have to check? C-bets get called so often. |
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