JJ in big
 

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UTG (t3210)
UTG+1 (t1515)
MP1 (t955)
MP2 (t1095)
CO (t1780)
Button (t2165)
SB (t1310)
Hero (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t30, SB calls t15, Hero checks

Flop: (t150) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">Button bets t90</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>

anyone play this differently?

Re: JJ in big
 

Bet/fold or check/call the flop.

Re: JJ in big
 

I like a raise preflop here, and I agree you should either bet/fold or check/call.

Re: JJ in big
 

at this level i feel im just building a pot OOP and with this many players to flop somebody has an A. what if there was only one A on flop? still say check call?

Re: JJ in big
 

I think that I would have raised preflop with the 4 callers. Against 4 callers, who cares if two aces flop, you are folding your hand here if any A,Q,or K flops. You have to isolate legit hands pf and when you get smacked on the flop you will feel better about your fold. I like the fact that you minimize your loss. Many would chase here for reasons that I am sure will follow.

Re: JJ in big
 

On an Axx flop I am folding (though I would have played pf differently). Its much different not only because its a bit less likely for them to have the ace but more importantly not many people lead with flopped trips in low stakes games. You can call and reevaluate later streets when very often they won't have Ax.

Re: JJ in big
 

Flop is a c/f with so many ppl to see it it's very likely someone just hit his trips(since ppl looove to play any A).
But I certainly raise this for value preflop.

Re: JJ in big
 

I would be c/c flop and folding to further turn action.

Re: JJ in big
 

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I would be c/c flop and folding to further turn action.

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Agree.

and OP,
raising pf isnt a bad idea, either.

Re: JJ in big
 

Was your intention to trap with a favorable flop? I like making a nice size re-raise instead of Letting 3 people limp otherwise ur just inviting more drawing hands to beat you, plus the scary flop kills the hand for you. A pre-flop raise might have at least chased away a weak ace, with a follow up continuation bet you might still take it down.

Re: JJ in big
 

I'd raise pre.

I'd call this bet on the flop, folding to further action on the flop, check/folding the turn, and checking/reevaluating the river if the turn checks through (unless the pot is multi-way after the flop in which case I'm check/folding turn + river).

I think betting the flop is bad.

Re: JJ in big
 

my line would be raise pre, c/c flop.

As played, c/c flop is good. The guy is on the button and can bet anything here. Fold when he bets again on the turn, mostly.

Re: JJ in big
 

I play it the same on both streets. I'm playing JJ for set value at this level and we missed. Easy fold. More chips in play, not so easy.

Re: JJ in big
 

JJ is way too strong a hand to play for set value, IMHO, which is why you raise pre to either get it heads up or take it down alltogether.

Re: JJ in big
 

I raise to ~200 preflop.

Re: JJ in big
 

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JJ is way too strong a hand to play for set value, IMHO, which is why you raise pre to either get it heads up or take it down alltogether.

[/ QUOTE ] I agree.

In checking preflop your asking to be in a crappy spot on the flop.