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Andrysmor 11-27-2007 01:26 AM

Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
Big blind is loose passive prefop. He often peels off a turn but lets it go on the turn or river without a miracle.

Villian is button LAGging it up with hyper aggression. He is often calling any bet in any position from any player and pushing second or third pair. I have not seen him float the flop or turn to represent hitting a big draw on the river. He has won many pots, however, making big bets on the river that have gone uncalled. Several times I have taken the lead against him in position and out of position. In those cases, he has proven to be a reliable station with the same hands he would have raised if checked to.

Blinds $2/$5
BTN: $779
Hero (SB): $1299
BB: $230
UTG: $340
MP: $1160
CO: $411

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, BTN calls $5, Hero calls $3, BB checks

Flop: ($15) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $10, BTN calls $10

Turn: ($45) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $20</font>, BB calls $20, BTN calls $20

River: ($105) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $744 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $644

cbboy 11-27-2007 01:38 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
Whats the problem besides your bet sizing?

Andrysmor 11-27-2007 08:29 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
Elaborate on what you mean?

Villian felted K5s. I find myself more than I like ending up in similar situations and am curious what plays to make to both prevent them from happening and from paying them off when villians hits.

What do you think is wrong with my bet sizing?

terp 11-27-2007 08:40 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
sweet river bet

GLmaestro 11-27-2007 08:47 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
Board: Jc Kc As 8s 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 00.000% 00.00% 00.00% 0 0.00 { QsTs }
Hand 1: 100.000% 100.00% 00.00% 7 0.00 { KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, Ks9s, Ks8s, Ks7s, Ks6s, Ks5s, Ks4s, Ks3s, Ks2s }


This one is pretty easy imo

ipp147 11-27-2007 08:56 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
[ QUOTE ]

What do you think is wrong with my bet sizing?

[/ QUOTE ]

it's too small

fees 11-27-2007 09:21 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
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TheWorstPlayer 11-27-2007 09:23 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
this is a great hand

nextgenneo 11-27-2007 09:27 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
great turn bet

GLmaestro 11-27-2007 09:31 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
Also, i love the fact that the blinds are $2-5 and still he manages to bet $1 on the river, OP is truly awesome

olof86 11-27-2007 10:35 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
talk about messing up a hand

JackAll 11-27-2007 11:37 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
[ QUOTE ]
What do you think is wrong with my bet sizing?

[/ QUOTE ]

roflburgers

Ap0calypse 11-27-2007 11:43 AM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
c/f c/rai c/f

Andrysmor 11-27-2007 08:39 PM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
Clearly my ability to lose pots extends to altering the minimum bet. It took me years to develop this skill. When you mean to underbet the pot, you have to go to extreme measures.

Truly I am awesome [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Oh and I meant to type in $100.

Evigt_Drabbad 11-27-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
lol [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

stackingboxes 11-27-2007 09:36 PM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
what is this? waste of front page lol

innerpeace 11-27-2007 10:07 PM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
i know this post could be a level, but i figured i'd respond nonetheless.

1. i assume that your river bet is $100, but mistyped.

2. it looks like you didn't think through villains' ranges when playing this hand at all. the board is draw heavy and scary looking so when both opponents call the turn, it's likely they are on some type of draw.

3. if either opponent is on a spade draw, it's likely that their draw also connected with the flop, suggesting that someone here has either the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], with the former being more likely.

4. therefore, the river is a clear fold, imho.

5. i am not a big fan of leading the river in this situation. many made hands and bluffs will bet this river if checked to, and only better hands will raise. by betting the river you are announcing that you have a strong hand, and allow your opponents to size their bets well.

6. you should bet more on the turn.

7. also, your assessment of villain seems off. i don't know many hyperaggressive lags who open limp otb.

Andrysmor 11-27-2007 10:39 PM

Re: Q10s OOP, flopped nuts against LAG gets into trouble
 
Not a level. Though I assure you, I see why you think it was a dumb way for me to play the hand on the river [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Normally, I think it is wise to check in this river spot for the same reason you suggested, but I felt torn between checking and getting in a value bet, as he is calling down those big bets with so many other "made" hands besides anything that includes a suited King of spades.

So if we check this river, are we folding to a shove either way?

By hyperaggressive, I meant to say (tho clearly did not so must add) that he has been mixing it up between passive and aggressive play, but for the most part has shown down junk.

Thanks for the thought out reply.


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