$5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

The way this hand went, I felt like I was playing for set value all along. Is this the best way to play JJ early?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1160)
UTG+1 (t1255)
Hero (t1265)
MP2 (t1675)
MP3 (t830)
CO (t2010)
Button (t1815)
SB (t1650)
BB (t1840)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls t30, <font color="red">Button raises to t60</font>, SB calls t45, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, Hero calls t30, CO calls t30

Flop: (t270) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Button bets t50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t100</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

I don't mind playing it this way but mostly i open for a raise here and cbet the flop oop and shut down if called, this early at least.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

I would always open raise JJ in this spot.

You will not always have overcards on the flop and and you have reversed implied odds if you allow smaller pp's to limp behind and the flop comes undercards and u stack off to a set.

As played you have 3rd pair and donk-bet/donk-raise i think its a fold.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

How much of a raise?

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

I would make it 120

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

I'd make a standard raise pre. C/f flop.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

i could even fold it pre. pfr obv doesnt help at this lvl.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

when I'm first in, I go 4x...if someone has limped in front of me, I just limp along. Obviously this is not the flop you are looking for.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

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i could even fold it pre. pfr obv doesnt help at this lvl.

[/ QUOTE ]ok, this is SUPER-nitty.
I openraise to 90, raise to 120 after a limper, and call a 90 or 120 raise.
Fold flop, no need to get fancy.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

you can raise preflop but this was totally fine.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

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i could even fold it pre. pfr obv doesnt help at this lvl.

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I wouldnt do this if i were 60 tabling

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

I dont know how someone could consider folding this PF, that has to never be the right play right.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

i said i COULD fold it-yes it`s foldable. raising to 100 will not fold A-rag,KQ,QJ, and 120-150 is spew, imo. get rraised n u have a race early on...

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

So much of the advice lately on 2+2 is so horrible. I can no longer tell when people are leveling or not.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

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i could even fold it pre. pfr obv doesnt help at this lvl.

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BAN!!

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

its not advice, its opinion. guess im wrong/

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

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i said i COULD fold it-yes it`s foldable. raising to 100 will not fold A-rag,KQ,QJ, and 120-150 is spew, imo. get rraised n u have a race early on...

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And if opps are prepared to put their chips in the pot with hands you're behind, that's bad because...Bueller? Bueller?

If you get re-raised, you can let the hand go.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

please never, ever fold preflop. ever.

did i mention ever?

and yes, agree with raising preflop, as played its fine.

Re: $5+0.50 Fumbling around with JJ
 

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i said i COULD fold it-yes it`s foldable. raising to 100 will not fold A-rag,KQ,QJ, and 120-150 is spew, imo. get rraised n u have a race early on...

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you know you CAN still do a standard raise