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CLo0uD 11-25-2007 06:55 PM

Best book on Limit Hold em
 
Hi
I want to gift a friend of mine a book about limit (fixed) Hold em. He allways deposits 40$ and goes to 3$/6$ fixed limit on Stars.So the book should contain some sites about bankroll management in limit hold em. He also plays limit hold em sit& goes but most of the time i see him playing limit hold em cashgames.

He is playing limit since summer 2006
So i think he knows about the basics and he also has some experience in limit. But i think he doesnt know how to calculate odds
I never play Limit Hold em so i dont know what book could be the perfect one for him.

Doc T River 11-25-2007 06:57 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
Off the top of my head, I am thinking Internet Texas Hold'Em by Matthew Hilger.

I don't know your friend so I don't know what would be perfect for him, either.

Adman 11-26-2007 01:34 AM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
If he thinks 7 big bets is adequate to play a given limit he may be beyond help.

Cactus Jack 11-26-2007 01:43 AM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
Isn't the minimum buyin for a 3/6 game online $60?

Is this a level?

jeffnc 11-26-2007 12:21 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
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Off the top of my head, I am thinking Internet Texas Hold'Em by Matthew Hilger.

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This is probably the single best book to learn full ring limit from. You can branch off from here, but I think it gives you the best middle-of-the-road foundation to start from.

For SnGs, Moshman is it right now. [edit: never mind, you said limit, this is NL.]

Does he really make $40 deposits to play $3/6? Is he actually interested in playing better? Most people aren't, ya know.

CLo0uD 11-26-2007 12:45 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
Allright

ill tell you more about him he had a bankroll on Pokerstars of 7000$ and growing then he lost it all at one night... playing limit 30/60$
Now he is playing 3/6 limit to get back to a "nice bankroll"
but last week he deposited 40$ he joined a 6max table and he rulled it partly by skill partly by luck he got up to more the 250$. I told him now you got a "nice bankroll" get down to the smaller levels of limit hold em and play there with like a quarter of your bankroll but he kept playing 3/6 at another table and he got unlucky and lost his hole bankroll again...

His sharkscope:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7...3256ab1.th.jpg

Al Mirpuri 11-26-2007 12:56 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
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Allright

ill tell you more about him he had a bankroll on Pokerstars of 7000$ and growing then he lost it all at one night... playing limit 30/60$
Now he is playing 3/6 limit to get back to a "nice bankroll"
but last week he deposited 40$ he joined a 6max table and he rulled it partly by skill partly by luck he got up to more the 250$. I told him now you got a "nice bankroll" get down to the smaller levels of limit hold em and play there with like a quarter of your bankroll but he kept playing 3/6 at another table and he got unlucky and lost his hole bankroll again...

His sharkscope:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7...3256ab1.th.jpg

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A book cannot help him.

SuperUberBob 11-26-2007 01:20 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
He needs books on money management before he starts buying poker books.

Cactus Jack 11-26-2007 02:09 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
Your Worst Poker Enemy.

maybe

jeffnc 11-27-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
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A book cannot help him.

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Well I suppose you feel very clever and superior now, so go back in your hole, having done your daily duty.

OP you said he plays limit SnGs, but that graph shows NL SnGs. He should get Moshman's book.

I don't see anything wrong with a player winning $200 in $6 SnGs. That is far better than the average player.

Furthermore, he might not even have psychological issues either - a lot of this bankroll talk is irrelevant, since most players don't really play on a fixed bankroll in the real world anyway. There is nothing wrong with taking a shot. But I suspect he was not really prepared for playing 30/60 skill wise.

RiversAreBad 11-27-2007 03:22 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
Best limit holdem books are Internet Texas Holdem by Hilger, Texas Holdem for Advanced Players by Sklansky and Middle-Limit Holdem by Ciaffone. Internet Texas Holdem is probably the best overall, however the other two have some good points in them that reading about would probably be benefitial.

sharkscopeaholic 11-28-2007 02:47 AM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
0 dollar buy ins?

Doc T River 11-28-2007 09:25 AM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
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If he thinks 7 big bets is adequate to play a given limit he may be beyond help.

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Sorry, I was thinking of a book recommendation as opposed to how much the guy was depositing.

Given he evidently needs guidance on money management, I would suggest Hilger's Internet Texas Hold'Em (for playing suggestions) and Hilger (and Taylor's) The Poker Mindset (for money management).

Albert Moulton 11-28-2007 04:35 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
Theory of Poker would be good. It's no specifically a limit book, but it has a lot of concepts that he would benefit from reading and understanding for any poker game.

CLo0uD 11-28-2007 07:29 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
allright i will buy internet Texas hold em by Hilger. i hope he will like it and i also hope that this book will improve his limit games in the future.

DeadMoneyWalking 11-28-2007 10:20 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
I think Professional Poker has the best section on bankroll management. He is probably more likely to believe it if he reads it in print than if you just tell him. People are strange in that respect.

pjf1969 11-29-2007 06:56 AM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
Hilger does not have a single original idea
Ciaffone is way to nitty for the modern game (the book is ok)
Skylansky-of course
My favorite beginners book-Weighting the odds in Holdem poker-by King Yao
Leading edge-Stoxs book
its funny how the evolution of the game has made much of the material in early books once profound insite -trivial

Doc T River 11-29-2007 09:03 AM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
The game has been around so long, the world has been around so long, perhaps there are no more original ideas.

SuperUberBob 11-29-2007 09:17 AM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
Small Stakes Hold'em is the best book for...small stakes hold'em.

DeadMoneyWalking 11-29-2007 04:08 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
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Small Stakes Hold'em is the best book for...small stakes hold'em.

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We need a permanant advisory: the book is about live games.

jeffnc 11-29-2007 05:03 PM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
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Hilger does not have a single original idea

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Even if true, it's irrelevant. The book is still the best for learning how to play limit Holdem.

drzen 12-01-2007 03:29 AM

Re: Best book on Limit Hold em
 
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Small Stakes Hold'em is the best book for...small stakes hold'em.

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We need a permanant advisory: the book is about live games.

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It's for any game with poor players in it.


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