$4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?
 

This is the first 180 player MTT I have played. I usually donk it up in FR NL games but had my worst session ever so I decided to blow off some steam with a tourney.

I make the money and get to the final table, but I'm starting to get short stacked. Do I make a stand here or fold and let a few more people bust out. I've seen UTG push two high cards at this point, and there is a lot of stealing, so I figure I've probably got a coinflip against overs if I call.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t60434)
MP (t113138)
Hero (t23264)
SB (t25764)
BB (t47400)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t57500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero...

The payout for the tourney goes:
1st: $216
2nd: $144
3rd: $85
4th: $57
5th: $47

I'm curious to hear what you guys think!

Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?
 

Fold it here. UTG raise is just ew. You can pick a better spot IMO

Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?
 

Also, post this in Small Stakes MTT - they answer this much quicker and better thought processes IMO.

Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?
 

I'd call and feel bad about it; then again, I'm a spineless nit...

I don't think I have time to wait for a better hand (2K BB 1K SB and 1K ante/5hands is a LOT).

This type of villain will do the same with pairs smaller than 88 or even A5s type of hands when he feels he can bully the table (or at least the short stacks).

Vs overcards pocket 8's is 55% to win, so it'll pay off in the long run I guess.

Still, shoving them instead of calling is a lot different, and there's 2 people to act behind you [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?
 

I'd have to fold here, you are at best a coinflip against any competent player making that raise and you're probably drawing thin to two outs.

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With a hand like 88 you'd rather be the first to raise all in. 99+, AQ+ is an easy call readless. I'd rather fold here and push fairly wide on the next hand if the blinds will be tight.

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All in from UTG feels like AK to me. I'd call. You are starting to get shortstacked and I think its time to double up or go home. If you play it safe you are basically in a battle between shorties over 4th and 5th place. A double here would put you in good shape for top 3.

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All in from UTG feels like AK to me. I'd call.

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I wish I could narrow opponents ranges down like that.

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All in from UTG feels like AK to me. I'd call.

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I wish I could narrow opponents ranges down like that.

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Yay, my first snide response from a 2+2 reg [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?
 

This is a small pair or AK very often.

88 is right on the border of calling here.

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Has UTG been raising maniacally? Has he been doing similar things while UTG?

If yes, call. If no, fold.

if my instincts are correct, he's playing AJ+ faceup, hence you are flipping for a better stack to take it down

Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?
 

Reads are critical. The only think that makes me think his range might be a little tighter is MP has large chip lead and is after him, but MP is probably not playing a lot of hands. If villian has been active I would think A10+ and allmost any pair are in his range. It is really close if it were 3 handed it would be an easy push and if you were if any action was folded to you I would push.

As is I still probably push and hope for the smaller pair or race against two overs.

The STT strategy guys could really help out post there too.

Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?
 

Thanks for the replies everyone! It looks like it was about evenly split between calling and folding - maybe with a little more advice to fold.

Everybody at the table was getting frisky by this point and I had seen UTG push high cards, so I felt pretty good about seeing 2 overs if I called. So I pushed and sure enough he flips AQo. Life was good until the inevitable river A dropped. My logic was like pricklypete - if I folded I might be able to lay low until I hit 3rd or 4th place but then I'd be in no shape to win it, but if I won the coinflip here I'd have a big enough stack to have a decent chance at top 3.

Thanks again to everyone who replied!