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Youngster21 11-24-2007 05:37 AM

How random are the random number generators?
 
Please dont flame this post, just want to see what you guys think of this. These are 2 hands that occured at roughly the same time on pokerstars for a buddy of mine. I was not there to witness but it is one of my best friends who plays only recreationally so i have no reason to think he made up this crazy story. So here goes the story... He is playing 4 16 dollar 9 man sit and goes and in 2 of them he is dealt 6s 6c(suits may not be correct but are same on both tables) he is also sitting in the same seat on both tables. The flop comes 655 on both table and each time his oppentant is holding u guessed it pocket 5's. CRAZY. Anyone want to guess at the math on this. SAME SUITS SAME HAND SAME SEAT SAME TIME SAME FLOP, has to be in the millions maybe billions to 1 range. I dont have a clue any thoughts.

Dan Terra 11-24-2007 05:42 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
SUPER RANDOM

Piece of Cake 11-24-2007 05:54 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
Any clue how many hands have been played on pokerstars? If truly random, seemingly rare events, actually become likely over a large sample. In fact, the absence of these seemingly rare events becomes unlikely (a 1 in a million event, for example, should occur 100 times on average over 100 million hands.) If these 1 in a millions never occurred over a 1 billion hand sample we should be wary. That is, if I never heard about something like this happening I would be more worried about things being non-random.

but really NVG? maybe move this to the math forum or bbv - yes now that I think about it - this must be a thinly veiled beat that I was too dense to notice? ISSCKM after replying to this. lifetilt initiate

blankoblanco 11-24-2007 07:05 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
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SUPER RANDOM imo

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Trikkur 11-24-2007 07:24 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
I heard that they are so randomly randomized to be random that they are actually rigged

madmonk 11-24-2007 07:36 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
I think it is so random that there is no other word than random to describe how random it actually is.

OnYourBike 11-24-2007 09:05 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
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Please dont flame this post, just want to see what you guys think of this. These are 2 hands that occured at roughly the same time on pokerstars for a buddy of mine. I was not there to witness but it is one of my best friends who plays only recreationally so i have no reason to think he made up this crazy story. So here goes the story... He is playing 4 16 dollar 9 man sit and goes and in 2 of them he is dealt 6s 6c(suits may not be correct but are same on both tables) he is also sitting in the same seat on both tables. The flop comes 655 on both table and each time his oppentant is holding u guessed it pocket 5's. CRAZY. Anyone want to guess at the math on this. SAME SUITS SAME HAND SAME SEAT SAME TIME SAME FLOP, has to be in the millions maybe billions to 1 range. I dont have a clue any thoughts.

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Did he just deposit? The boomswitch probably got turned on. Just don't withdraw.

PokrLikeItsProse 11-24-2007 09:16 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
It's more likely than a million internet monkeys typing randomly in BBV4L and eventually producing a deep and profound post.

[Phill] 11-24-2007 09:18 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
Its like a brazillion times more random that the shuffle on a live card table.

JimmyVooToo 11-24-2007 09:28 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
randomization power !

felixleong 11-24-2007 09:36 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
that happening is really very rare
but i'm sure it will happen to someone, somewhere, someday

rocketsfan4lyfe 11-24-2007 09:42 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
not as random as compared to real life

[BBV4L] 11-24-2007 10:06 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
this might be a stupid question but is the deck shuffled during the hand?

dibbs 11-24-2007 10:42 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
They're probably like, random, or something.

cunning 11-24-2007 10:53 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
ive heard from a reliable source that each hand is manually chosen by the poker site staff(online dealers), they choose everyones hole cards and the community cards.

JokersAttack 11-24-2007 10:55 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
once i flipped a coin, and at the very same moment, flipped a coin with my other hand. This occured simultaneously. Both were heads.

Rigged omfg.

Bulletproof Monk 11-24-2007 11:15 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
OH MY GOD ALERT THE AUTHORITIES

OnYourBike 11-24-2007 11:22 AM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
Sounds like another case of Stars manipulating outcomes to create action so they can get $2 in rake instead of $1.25

Tranny Ken 11-24-2007 12:44 PM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
They are pretty fking random actually. Here's a random thought: what's the origin of "Andy Beal is not a poker player". Anyone?

Injection 11-24-2007 12:54 PM

Re: How random are the random number generators?
 
I'm pretty sure it's only marginally random. Personally, I'd like to see the sites adopt a far more random approach.


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