Patriots vs. NFC Pro Bowl Team, Who ya got?
 

Just curious to see how good people think the Patriots really are. Do you think they could beat a team with the NFC's best? Also curious to see where you think the line should be at.

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I'm pretty sure this was already discussed in another thread.

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I'm a huge pats fan and I think even if it was Pats+Indy vs. NFC pro bowl team, NFC would win.

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I'd take Packers + Cowboys best over the Pats. They aren't that good.

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NFC by 11.5+ assuming they have the ability to train and have no cap restrictions.

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NFC pro bowl team by at least 10 points

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NFC and it's not even close.

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NFC by 11.5.

The only possible advantage the Pats would have over the NFC Pro Bowl team is having played with each other for a full season. Give the Pro Bowl team a month or so to prepare and a couple exhibition games and it would be a complete and utter beatdown.

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I'd take Packers + Cowboys best over the Pats. They aren't that good.

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You could pick two middle of the pack NFC teams and they would be favorites.

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QB is debatable. I guess you could take Brady.
RB, PB team easily.
WR, combination, easily PB team.
O-line, easily PB team.
TE, easily PB team.
D-line, PB team easily.
CBs, PB team easily.
LBs, PB team easily.
ST, PB team easily.

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I'd take Packers + Cowboys best over the Pats. They aren't that good.

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You could pick two middle of the pack NFC teams and they would be favorites.

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I think this would be an interesting exercise.

How many teams would it take to make the game a pick 'em, assuming you started from the bottom up. Using AFC as well. Take the 49ers, Raiders and who else?

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This is so ridiculous. Packers + Cowboys would kill the Pats.

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I'd take Packers + Cowboys best over the Pats. They aren't that good.

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You could pick two middle of the pack NFC teams and they would be favorites.

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How about2 busto teams? Let's say the Dolphins and the 49ers?

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Kyro,
As long as it takes for them to get a competent QB.

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I'd take Packers + Cowboys best over the Pats. They aren't that good.

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You could pick two middle of the pack NFC teams and they would be favorites.

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I think this would be an interesting exercise.

How many teams would it take to make the game a pick 'em, assuming you started from the bottom up. Using AFC as well. Take the 49ers, Raiders and who else?

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You'd probably have to go all the way up to the 4-6 teams. CIN, KC, MIN, NO, and BAL would make a sick team.

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Kyro,
As long as it takes for them to get a competent QB.

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Bulger?

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Kyro,
As long as it takes for them to get a competent QB.

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2-8 teams have Bulger.

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I'd take Packers + Cowboys best over the Pats. They aren't that good.

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You could pick two middle of the pack NFC teams and they would be favorites.

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I think this would be an interesting exercise.

How many teams would it take to make the game a pick 'em, assuming you started from the bottom up. Using AFC as well. Take the 49ers, Raiders and who else?

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Who the coaches are and what system they use seems like it would be a major headache for the NFC.

The O-line has never played together.

Seems like they would need more than a month to gel to be 11 point favs

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I'd take Packers + Cowboys best over the Pats. They aren't that good.

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You could pick two middle of the pack NFC teams and they would be favorites.

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I think this would be an interesting exercise.

How many teams would it take to make the game a pick 'em, assuming you started from the bottom up. Using AFC as well. Take the 49ers, Raiders and who else?

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You'd probably have to go all the way up to the 4-6 teams. CIN, KC, MIN, NO, and BAL would make a sick team.

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Yeah, as soon as you start getting into OK teams that just have terrible offense/good defense or vice versa, it'd be a blowout.

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I'd take Packers + Cowboys best over the Pats. They aren't that good.

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You could pick two middle of the pack NFC teams and they would be favorites.

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I think this would be an interesting exercise.

How many teams would it take to make the game a pick 'em, assuming you started from the bottom up. Using AFC as well. Take the 49ers, Raiders and who else?

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Who the coaches are and what system they use seems like it would be a major headache for the NFC.

The O-line has never played together.

Seems like they would need more than a month to gel to be 11 point favs

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So give them Minnesota's O-line. It's good enough. Put a good QB behind them.

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I think you guys aren't realising how bad the NFC is compared to the AFC.

Half the Pats team could start on the NFC Pro Bowl Team. Plus Bill Belichick is the best coach in the NFL bar none.

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How long do you think it would take a QB and the WRs to gel sufficiently (assume the QB has never played with any of the WRs before)?

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I am a Patriots fan and can't think logically

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The OL/DL for the NFC team would destroy the Pats.

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I think you guys aren't realising how bad the NFC is compared to the AFC.

Half the Pats team could start on the NFC Pro Bowl Team. Plus Bill Belichick is the best coach in the NFL bar none.

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Uh, lol?

The NFC has won more games against the AFC than it has lost. So...yeah. The AFC may still be slightly superior, but it's not as one-sided as it used to be.

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Kyro,
I thought you meant worst team, not team with a really bad record due to injuries and bad luck.
Edit: This might of come off dickish, but that wasn't the intention, but the Rams aren't that bad. Also there is a lot of variance in this since certain teams complement each other really well when combined.

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I think you guys aren't realising how bad the NFC is compared to the AFC.

Half the Pats team could start on the NFC Pro Bowl Team. Plus Bill Belichick is the best coach in the NFL bar none.

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BS.

Cowboys and Pack are good.

Between the two teams you have rediculous passing game. Rediculous D, rediculous running game. They would beat the Pats bad. Between the two teams you could guard Moss and pressure Brady. Harris is a little short but has been the best cover corner in the NFL this year.

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How long do you think it would take a QB and the WRs to gel sufficiently (assume the QB has never played with any of the WRs before)?

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>1 game if there names are Brady, Moss, Welker, and Stallworth.

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Kyro,
I thought you meant worst team, not team with a really bad record due to injuries and bad luck.
Edit: This might of come off dickish, but that wasn't the intention, but the Rams aren't that bad. Also there is a lot of variance in this since certain teams complement each other really well when combined.

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Well, losing Pace may have hurt, but the Rams were really bad before Bulger and Jackson got hurt. I mean, even after getting those two back and seemingly turning things around, they only scored 13 against the terrible 9ers.

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Between the two teams you could guard Moss and pressure Brady.

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Are you talking about putting 22 guys on defense?

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Kyro,
I thought you meant worst team, not team with a really bad record due to injuries and bad luck.
Edit: This might of come off dickish, but that wasn't the intention, but the Rams aren't that bad. Also there is a lot of variance in this since certain teams complement each other really well when combined.

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Well, losing Pace may have hurt, but the Rams were really bad before Bulger and Jackson got hurt. I mean, even after getting those two back and seemingly turning things around, they only scored 13 against the terrible 9ers.

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Aren't they still injured? As in like 50% not they aren't playing.

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WR core of TO, Fitz, Johnson, Williams, Boldin, Witten, Plaxico. Have Barber, Peterson at RB. Pats can't even compete with that.

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Maybe if the NFC had Jesus covering Moss, and the Holy Ghost pressuring Brady, they might keep it close. I still like the Pats on a last second field goal.

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Between the two teams you could guard Moss and pressure Brady.

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Are you talking about putting 22 guys on defense?

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No I mean their personnel to get 11 guys. GB 2ndary is really good. GB has Kampman and their front 4 is really good. Dallas has a ton of studs on the line and LB position as well.

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Between the two teams you could guard Moss and pressure Brady.

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Are you talking about putting 22 guys on defense?

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Pats O line would get absolutely raped by an all NFC D (assuming good coaching). There are some sick pass rushers in the NFC <<<<<<<<<<< Moss would still be very potent obv but he could definitely be limited especially with the added pressure on Brady.

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WR core of TO, Fitz, Johnson, Williams, Boldin, Witten, Plaxico. Have Barber, Peterson at RB. Pats can't even compete with that.

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True but the Pats do have pretty much the best possible 3-4 D-line available. I guess you could sub Williams for Wilfork but they are very close. And Samuel > Any NFC corner (i think, but I may be wrong.)and Brady > Any NFC QB. Of course the NFC wins almost everywhere else (LT and LG might be kinda close but maybe not). So yeah, NFC wins.

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Samuel is not better than Harris. Hall isn't bad either. You also have Clements, Newman, and others up for grabs.

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They almost lost to the Colts. How could they beat a Pro Bowl team?

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I think you guys aren't realising how bad the NFC is compared to the AFC.

Half the Pats team could start on the NFC Pro Bowl Team. Plus Bill Belichick is the best coach in the NFL bar none.

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BS.

Cowboys and Pack are good.

Between the two teams you have rediculous passing game. Rediculous D, rediculous running game. They would beat the Pats bad. Between the two teams you could guard Moss and pressure Brady. Harris is a little short but has been the best cover corner in the NFL this year.

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The Packers D would get LIT UP by New England. Does anybody else think GB is way overrated? Sure they are 10-1 but look who they have beat. They dont really play any good teams at all, with the exception of Dallas next week.

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Samuel is not better than Harris. Hall isn't bad either. You also have Clements, Newman, and others up for grabs.

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I'd take Samuel over Harris any day.