Playing w/out seeing holecards challenge
 

Ok, so I've decided to kill some time.

I always wanted to do this. To see how bad will I do if I try to play without seeing my holecards.

So, the challenge is:

25 $3 s&g's (those could actually be played w/o looking at cards I guess)

and/or

500 hands of .05/.10NL cash game

Post results. Graph, PT winrate, EV. Gogogo.

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Might try this later.
It would problaby be easier at higher stakes though...

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At higher stakes you'd have to cheat and look [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Might try this later.
It would problaby be easier at higher stakes though...

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Yes, it actually would. I think the low-limit s&g's can be beat for a posotive ROI. And the high-stakes NL could be break-even or slightly losing. It all depends on the skill obv.
Also, ratholing 20BB with an excessive use of PAHUD might actually show some positive winrate as well (since its pretty much similar to s&g's).

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I'm doing the $3 s&g's right now.

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which site?
Username?
TournamentID?

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which site?
Username?
TournamentID?

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This actually made me smile [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Mostly because he seems serious.

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if i run good today ill do the 500 hands of 50/1, should be pretty funny to see how much i lose

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After like 5 minutes I could say thet $3 s&g's are unbeatable w/o cards, you can only v-bet at this level [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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After like 5 minutes I could say thet $3 s&g's are unbeatable w/o cards, you can only v-bet at this level [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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indeed.
25-100nl seem the ideal place to try this experiment as your opponents can hand-read and make big laydowns but are still pretty horrible.

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I played 10 (smaller sample, meh) $3/45s blind and managed to get 3rd in one and busted the rest. It's pretty hard and have to have the right dynamics really to have it work.

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After like 5 minutes I could say thet $3 s&g's are unbeatable w/o cards, you can only v-bet at this level [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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The 3s are weird and theres loads of rake. Try it at the 16s. If ur good I recon you could at least break even.

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After like 5 minutes I could say thet $3 s&g's are unbeatable w/o cards, you can only v-bet at this level [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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The 3s are weird and theres loads of rake. Try it at the 16s. If ur good I recon you could at least break even.

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yeah good idea. I'm stopping after 6 $3's. And i will do it on $11's or $22, but not right now, b/c I suddenly got lazy.

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how can u not look at ur cards..

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Put stickers on your screen at the cards location.

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Put stickers on your screen at the cards location.

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Thats all well and good, but how would you do it playing live??

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Put stickers on your screen at the cards location.

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Thats all well and good, but how would you do it playing live??

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I really hope I'm being leveled here.

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Put stickers on your screen at the cards location.

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Thats all well and good, but how would you do it playing live??

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Put the stickers directly on your eyes.

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Sooooo... Anyone got results to share?

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going to try this right now. ID Chk/RzChuck on Stars, a $27 turbo.

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You shared table with mkgringo, think he has a read on you [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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going to try this right now. ID Chk/RzChuck on Stars, a $27 turbo.

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Well that didn't work...

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well. JT > K4 on a JT75 board....

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well. JT > K4 on a JT75 board....

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lol you went all in on the turn without looking at ur cards?

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Put stickers on your screen at the cards location.

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Thats all well and good, but how would you do it playing live??

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Act like youre looking, but dont look there / wear shades and look somewhere else.