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primate 11-23-2007 09:17 AM

200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
Villain was running at an impressive 31/28/5 over 600 hands. We had tangled on numerous occassions with me getting the upper hand the last few times. I had started calling him lite. One read was was when he bet the pot on the river he had strong flush v my TP (not a big pot). I think villain is getting frustrated by now.

Is this a call with a pumpfist?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $103.25
Hero (BB): $283.75
UTG: $293.50
BTN: $409.50

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($39) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $50</font>, Hero calls $35

River: ($139) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $55</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $304</font>, Hero ???

sh58 11-23-2007 09:17 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
very very very easy call

auc hincloss 11-23-2007 09:30 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
yeah im calling pretty quickly.

incidently, i hate to point out that fact, being from scotland as well, you should change your location [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

sh58 11-23-2007 09:33 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
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yeah im calling pretty quickly.

incidently, i hate to point out that fact, being from scotland as well, you should change your location [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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lol, i was gonna say that, but was too embarrassed as i'm english, and the scots did sooo much better than us in qualifying

primate 11-23-2007 09:33 AM

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yeah im calling pretty quickly.

incidently, i hate to point out that fact, being from scotland as well, you should change your location [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I'm still living the dream...

auc hincloss 11-23-2007 09:44 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
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yeah im calling pretty quickly.

incidently, i hate to point out that fact, being from scotland as well, you should change your location [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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lol, i was gonna say that, but was too embarrassed as i'm english, and the scots did sooo much better than us in qualifying

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Oh aye, you boys got it rough. thoguht you'd managed a draw there. relying on Andorra to equalise after having lost last 29 games isn't a very good position to be in. OT, i know....

BombayBadboy 11-23-2007 09:55 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
I hate your play on the flop and turn.

On the river, its a snap call. He can show up with AA/KK a lone 4 here. Even a complete bluff is not that weird given how you played the hand.

Aces0Kingz 11-23-2007 10:01 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
im just glad Mclarens gone and £2.5million payoff WTF for WHAT?

http://shinymedia.headshift.com/imag...clarennuts.jpg

Paul Thomson 11-23-2007 10:52 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
You butchered the flop and turn.

As for the river, bet bigger and call a shove.

Spechel EDD 11-23-2007 10:55 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
dont forget to call or you can timeout from fistpumping so much

sightless 11-23-2007 10:58 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
fold flop
bet more on turn
bet more on river imo
call shove

shandyboy 11-23-2007 11:07 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
primate please please please please stop your love affair with sooooted aces [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [you know i love you]

pf is meh.
flop is a fold
turn is whiffy, if ur going to bet it, bet it with confidence. hard to know what hand ur repping.
u hit ur gin card on river, there is no way he will put u on a flush given how u played, bet 2/3. U need to maxmise ur value, u will get looked up a lot. Once he shoves, im calling this (esp how hand played out). He is raising here a lot more than just the f/house for value. plus i assumed u called villains r/r on turn for precisely this result?!

MadeInPolanD 11-23-2007 11:08 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
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fold flop
bet more on turn
bet more on river imo
call shove

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primate 11-23-2007 11:49 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
OKOK As played easy call on river.

Villain had air. I don't normally play retarded like this. I called.

orange 11-23-2007 02:51 PM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
flop is wtf...

turn i can see what you want to do but its really not a great spot at all...

river call given the way you got there.

come to think of it, i pretty much hate every single street here. pf is v. marginal. flop is nasty. turn is marginal. river please c/r once you get there...

redCashion 11-23-2007 04:04 PM

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dont forget to call or you can timeout from fistpumping so much

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There were plenty of spots where folding would have been good, but the river wasn't one of them.

Jay Riall 11-23-2007 04:09 PM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
Who hand is butchered imo. Turn especially.

Speedlimits 11-23-2007 04:12 PM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
pf is pretty bad

blankoblanco 11-23-2007 11:52 PM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
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come to think of it, i pretty much hate every single street here. pf is v. marginal. flop is nasty. turn is marginal. river please c/r once you get there...

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marginal meaning you'd rather 3bet pre? can't imagine you mean fold it

nazahl 11-24-2007 12:09 AM

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pf is pretty bad

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4bet???? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

GSykes 11-24-2007 12:28 AM

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pf is pretty bad

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4bet???? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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first there would need to be a 3bet

nazahl 11-24-2007 01:44 AM

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pf is pretty bad

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4bet???? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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first there would need to be a 3bet

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was just a joke since speedlimits wants to 4bet like every hand pf

Speedlimits 11-24-2007 01:50 AM

Re: 200nl - River Value Bet Faces Shove
 
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pf is pretty bad

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4bet???? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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first there would need to be a 3bet

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was just a joke since speedlimits wants to 4bet like every hand pf

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lol


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