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Pokerstuff2 11-23-2007 12:14 AM

2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
I know my bet was too small on flop. Too many callers prefop, then a huge check raise from unknown this has to be a set?

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $989
BB: $660.10
Hero (UTG): $400
CO: $396.20
BTN: $72

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, CO calls $16, BTN folds, SB calls $14, BB calls $12

Flop: ($64) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $124</font>, hero?

HERE_2_gamble_ 11-23-2007 12:17 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
bet more flop, his raise isnt that huge, he doesnt always have a set, push flop.

Jinx 11-23-2007 12:26 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
what did bb do? anyways fold it

Pokerstuff2 11-23-2007 12:35 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
he folded

RiverHebrew2 11-23-2007 01:06 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
in all honesty, i'd pitch it with this many peopl ein pot. You could call and push a safe turn, but I actually like a fold.

ArdyJay 11-23-2007 03:22 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
i don't fold, ever.

adam001 11-23-2007 09:27 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
shove

blankoblanco 11-23-2007 09:59 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
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Too many callers prefop, then a huge check raise from unknown this has to be a set?

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dunno what makes you think that, draw seems way more likely. i also see AT here a surprising amount of the time. im not folding

Jamsym 11-23-2007 11:28 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
Very draw heavy board so hard for me to fold this.

Just a question of putting it in now or shoving a safe turn card.

ogdundar 11-23-2007 11:29 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
I think you gotta shove because of your flop bet which is way too small. He could easily do this with one pair hands. If your bet was like 3/4 pot though, I'd possibly fold.

philipsaurus 11-23-2007 11:33 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
not having the Ah, id snap shove.

having it, id shove, not entirely thrilled about it.

xorbie 11-23-2007 11:41 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
with this small bet, folding would be bad, unless SB is like 15/12.

Requin 11-23-2007 01:00 PM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
Fold

D_Lonnigan 11-23-2007 01:28 PM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
Shove.

xker17x 11-23-2007 01:31 PM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
id get it in expecting to see a draw an overwhelming amount of the time, two pair sometimes which u atleast have some equity against and a set sometimes in which case ur thin but with ur small bet and such a draw heavy board i wouldnt think twice about shoving

Chaser8 11-23-2007 03:47 PM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
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shove

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blankoblanco 11-23-2007 10:15 PM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
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Fold

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can anyone who advocates folding say why? i seriously think you see a lone T almost as often as you see a set here, from an unknown. this forum forgets that sometimes people just play bad. add in all the draws and shoving is clear imo

quickfetus 11-23-2007 10:38 PM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
Grunch.

I'd definitely shove, I think you see a combo draw here a decent amount of the time. Also your flop bet is begging to be played back at. I would say to bet more on flop, but you obviously already know that.

13_Xerxes 11-23-2007 11:16 PM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
Call/push turn or fold flop. Oop, it's a clear shove or fold.

matt85 11-24-2007 06:41 AM

Re: 2/4 6max: Standard line with AA vs unknown
 
Obv player dependant but he turns up with a draw/air/tp here waaay more often than a set here so just shove.


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