Duplicate Poker Deals Same Cards to Multiple Players. What\'s This?
 

Below is a notice I got from Poker Savvy Newsletter...

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New Poker Room Partner: Duplicate Poker

Not Your Usual Poker Site - A New Twist On Hold'em!

Duplicate Poker has taken Hold'em to a whole new level. We promise you've never played online poker like this before!

At Duplicate Poker, you compete against players at other tables who are holding the same cards as you! Outplay someone with the same hand, and you're the winner!
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Anyone know how this works? More details needed.

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it's like duplicate bridge (if that's what it's called)

you figure out the difference between the amount you win with your hand relative to what others win with the same hand in the same situation

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Imagine 2 tables with 2 seats each. Player A on table 1 gets the same cards as player A on table 2. The bet is between them, who makes more with the same cards. Collusion-paradise!

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It's an attempt to determine who is the better player. Players at different tables getting the same cards. After a predetermined ampunt of time compare the players stacks. Who made the most or lost the least. Since players have the same cards you can make comparisons, not based on the cards, but on the skill levels of the players.

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is there interest in this

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I've played a bit and it can be frustrating.
There have been a few times when I am in first (you only know position and not how far ahead you are) when the final hand is dealt (There are a predetermined number of hands) and end up in 2nd or 3rd (only 1st at each seat wins) cause of alot of desperate allins from the 2nd/3rd place players at the other tables.

All in all (no pun intended) I seems like a neat idea. How far it will go remains to be seen.

Oh and Duplicate Poker will give you some free $ to try it out.

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Hi.

More questions...

1. So all ten players or all six players in a shorthand table get the same cards?

1a. Do they do shorthand tables?

2. Does this excercise begin and end at some set time, or is it a continous game that you jump into or out of whenever you want?

3. When and how do you find out who the person on the other table with the same cards as you is and how well they faired?

4. Is there any prize for doing better than the other person with the same cards?

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Imagine 2 tables with 2 seats each. Player A on table 1 gets the same cards as player A on table 2. The bet is between them, who makes more with the same cards. Collusion-paradise!

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AFAIU: Isn't it actually beyond collusion, it's the officialized "see opponent hole cards" ... ?

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Imagine 2 tables with 2 seats each. Player A on table 1 gets the same cards as player A on table 2. The bet is between them, who makes more with the same cards. Collusion-paradise!

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AFAIU: Isn't it actually beyond collusion, it's the officialized "see opponent hole cards" ... ?

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No, officially you cannot see the hole-cards of your opponents. You only know those of players in your position on other tables. Not that this matters, obv, as having 1 friend playing the same tourney gives you a wealth of info.

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AFAIU: Isn't it actually beyond collusion, it's the officialized "see opponent hole cards" ... ?

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No, officially you cannot see the hole-cards of your opponents. You only know those of players in your position on other tables. Not that this matters, obv, as having 1 friend playing the same tourney gives you a wealth of info.

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I meant that if you collude in normal poker, the only benefit you get is that you know 2 more dead cards.

If you collude in this poker - and your mate is in another table, you know the hole cards of some player on your table ?!

That was/is a question from my side (if i got it all correctly, I only once read the rules)

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I dont see how two players getting the same cards at different tables in any way determines who plays better. How the other nine players at YOUR table play is going to have a pretty huge impact. In other words, the same cards at different tables will face very different situations despite the cards being the same.

Example: UTG has KQ, EP3 has 77, and Button has KJ.

At table 1, KQ raises, 77 smooth calls, KJ folds.
At table 2, KQ limps, 77 limps, KJ raises.

KJ played differently from the button because of action in front.

I would think that if you want to compare the skill level of different players getting the same cards you would need to equalize all the other variables that acutally make up the game of poker.

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This sounds like a horrible idea, and really opens the door to all kinds of problems. There's nothing wrong with poker as it is imo

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I think it's a great idea for organized and moderated contests. Horrible for just random internet playing.

Tysen

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The problem with this concept is that even on one table you guys are still competing against different opponents. If your opponent accidentally sits at the table with an average VPIP of 45 and tremendous pre-flop/post-flop aggression from people with mediocre holdings, and you sit at the table with an average VPIP of 20, you are probably going to lose the battle even if you are both equally skilled. Over the long-haul of course you will both sit in your fair share of loose and tight tables of course, but such is the exact same case in conventional poker games. You will still only win your money in the long-run where your decisions average out to winning decisions over large samples against the standard distribution of players at your current stake-level. As such this really changes nothing. Luck is only superficially eliminated from the equation, as there are too many variables that are still not controlled for (such as opponent playing tendencies, not to mention the ability to collude much more easily) to eliminate chance from the play.

Crap, didn't notice cjk wrote essentially the same stuff. Oh well....

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I always wanted to see a TV HU tourney where there were mulitple tables of pros being dealt the same cards. See how each duo plays the same cards as were dealt to another 2 players. Cool idea for a site, but i think it would work better with HU play.