QQ facing agression...now what?
 

Villan is 15/11.5/3.6 No specific reads


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SB ($208.60)
BB ($124.20)
Hero ($154.35)
MP ($36.70)
CO ($175.25)
Button ($114.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($44.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $28</font>

What is best move on turn facing his lead...considering villans 125bb stack I feel turn and/or river could get sticky.

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 

His range is soooo narrow here, but I just can't see what he could have here that you beat other than a total bluff (AJ seems like a stretch imo). I guess I'd fold the turn, but I don't hate stacking off.

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Your image? Recent pots you have played with villain?
He is pretty tight and aggressive, but there are no draws for him to be getting aggressive with, so your hand is a bluff catcher. His turn bet is setting him up to push the river, which scares me. There are hands that you are ahead of, but most of them rely on the opponent being awful, so I think a fold is fine here.

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Im not too sure as to my image i had been playing 15/13/5.5 over 250 hands for the sessin but had played 150 hands with villan. I think my image was prob pretty solid, not getting caught in any bluffs or anything and showing down winning hands for the most part.

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i think you can fold turn. this guy is a nit. hes not double barreling 45s here.
maybe calling is ok, (i would be folding to a river shove if i did call tho), but i really dont like shoving this turn. wtf is he ever gonna call you with?

DONT PAY OFF THE NITS!

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Im not too sure as to my image i had been playing 15/13/5.5 over 250 hands for the sessin but had played 150 hands with villan. I think my image was prob pretty solid, not getting caught in any bluffs or anything and showing down winning hands for the most part.

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Then you have your answer - fold. Unless villain is a genius at poker, and knows you have 1 pair here always, and that you will fold it to aggression, you are way behind. I have lost way too much money at poker thinking my opponents are smart to put him on that, so just fold.

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does anyone think villain can have AJ here?

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not likely. i think a nit has a set more often than AJ tbh

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The 3 is actually a good card for us. Do you think he calls with JJ preflop? If not, then I'd at least call a turn bet and fold to a river shove. But I don't know if that's great, since he might value-shove AJ on the river.

Why is everyone discounting AJ?

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Yeah, nits don't typically a) call preflop here with AJ (maybe if it's suited), or b) go all ape-[censored] postflop with TPTK against a fellow nit.

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i actually don't just calling this turn. not like it commits us, if we call, eff stacks are $85 going into the river.

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If people don't want to continue when the 3 falls on the turn, then I think we have to fold on the flop, unless we assume that the Villain is tricky enough to bet a dry flop which likely missed us which I wouldn't put against most Villains. So I guess if you assume he'll check-raise the flop as a bluff and shut down after that, then calling is ok...but I think u can usually fold the flop if ur going to fold the turn when a 3 comes.

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If people don't want to continue when the 3 falls on the turn, then I think we have to fold on the flop, unless we assume that the Villain is tricky enough to bet a dry flop which likely missed us which I wouldn't put against most Villains. So I guess if you assume he'll check-raise the flop as a bluff and shut down after that, then calling is ok...but I think u can usually fold the flop if ur going to fold the turn when a 3 comes.

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So true...If only I could think so clearly in the heat of the moment.

Re: QQ facing agression...now what?
 

Nits like that always have the goods here. If you don't fold the flop (which would make an insane read) at least fold the turn.

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Its easy just to say hes a nit fold, but correct me if im wrong but wouldnt nits have a lower agr factor then 3.5 and hes calling 15 percent of his hands wich is a range of: 77+,A7s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QJo so does that change anything???

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hes not calling with 15% of his hands. hes calling with pocket pairs and big suited broadways, mostly AXs

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I'm most likely calling him down here. That three just bought him my stack, on paper anyhow. One thing that helps a lot here though is to look at his c/r flop %. A lot of these nitty guys are c/ring an absurd % of flops to make up for all of the set mining they do.