200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

200nl villain is 67/2 over 151 hands. With only raising 2% is this ever anything but AA or KK? Also villain was at $500 a half hour ago and lost a lot on donk cals and chasing.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BB): $200
UTG: $276
MP: $343.30
CO: $150.30
BTN: $204.40
SB: $249.35

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, CO calls $2, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $150.30 and is All-In</font>, SB folds.

Hero?

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

With only raising 2% is this ever AA or KK?

no

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

Who limps from the cut-off and expects a re-raise to push over?

Sounds like a tilt-shove to me.

I call.

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

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Who limps from the cut-off and expects a re-raise to push over?

I call.

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A 67% vpip?
THanks

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

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Who limps from the cut-off and expects a re-raise to push over?

I call.

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A 67% vpip?
THanks

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Maybe so, but someone with a 67% VPIP is necessarily stupid.

Stupid people necessarily do stupid things.

We're in bad shape to ONLY 6 combos of AA and KK. We dominate a lot of his range, and we're flipping for the rest of his range.

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

a 67% vpip can certainly limp KK+ here, but he'll almost always just call your 3bet and be like LOLOL GONNA TRAP YOU ... they hate it when people fold preflop when they have KK+

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

untrue, in the past week I've had this same situation (CO or Button limp) then 3 or 4-bet AI after the blinds raise and the fish has AA/KK a good portion of the time. That said I still call.

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

Fold.. It's a limp-&gt; 4 bet shove.. Never a bluff enough to make calling with AK good here.. GG

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

insta-fold

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

when a 67/2 limp-reraises, he has AA or KK.

or very occasionally Q4o (but not occasionally enough to call here).

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

with a 2%pfr we obviously dont dominate his range, but if hes been losing he is probably steeming and you cant give up a chance to stack a donk ... call

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with a 2%pfr we obviously dont dominate his range, but if hes been losing he is probably steeming and you cant give up a chance to stack a donk ... call

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Sometimes, you have to give up a chance to stack a donk, because if they win they might quit, and if they lose they will quit. You are so [censored] here, it is not even funny. Fold.

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

Usually, I muck everything but AA or KK to limp reraises from players like that and feel good about it. It´s a dead give away, but in this situation I don't know if I'd have the discipline to lay it down. Very read-dependant...

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Ranma is probably right though. If he's steaming there'll hopefully be a better spot to get his stack. Just hope noone beats you to it...

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with a 2%pfr we obviously dont dominate his range, but if hes been losing he is probably steeming and you cant give up a chance to stack a donk ... call

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this is normally wrong. when you are 200bb deep with a donk it is even more wrong.

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Usually, I muck everything but AA or KK to limp reraises from players like that and feel good about it. It´s a dead give away, but in this situation I don't know if I'd have the discipline to lay it down. Very read-dependant...

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Ranma is probably right though. If he's steaming there'll hopefully be a better spot to get his stack. Just hope noone beats you to it...

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I would just like to say that at the table I'm probably calling this and then punching the wall when he shows AA or KK, just like he always does and I knew he [censored] had it god damn donks why can't I fold they suck so much god [censored] [censored] [censored].

Re: 200 nl AK pre against 67/2 donk
 

Why flip with a 67/2 guy for 75bb? Chances are, if he hangs around you can get your money in against him WAY better than 50/50... The $20 he takes in this hand is only temporarily his.

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Why flip with a 67/2 guy for 75bb? Chances are, if he hangs around you can get your money in against him WAY better than 50/50... The $20 he takes in this hand is only temporarily his.

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If this was 100% to be a flip, you should always do it, but it usually isn't a flip.

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Why flip with a 67/2 guy for 75bb? Chances are, if he hangs around you can get your money in against him WAY better than 50/50... The $20 he takes in this hand is only temporarily his.

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If this was 100% to be a flip, you should always do it, but it usually isn't a flip.

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Agreed - the times it's not a flip + the times it is a flip and he wins and just leaves = why expose yourself to it. It's not like getting money out of the guy is hard @ 67/2... I'd happily flip a nit all day for 75bb but this guy...meh.