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Craggoo 11-21-2007 06:51 AM

People that harass and berate
 
Up to this point in time, I've never felt a need to report people who were generally being very hostile at the table. The last few days, I've reported 10 people who I felt were totally out of line. Is it just me or do these guys drive you crazy. Their stunt would not be tolerated in a B&M Cardroom so i see no reason why it should be tolerated on poker sites. Am I unreasonable to expect others to be courteous and respectful to the rest of the table?

Rek 11-21-2007 07:46 AM

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Am I unreasonable to expect others to be courteous and respectful to the rest of the table?

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Yes you are. But you are not wrong.

If you have reported 10 people recently then you may be a little too sensitive. I think it is correct to report them if they are being abusive and using language that is totally inappropriate. However, if they are just rambling and calling people a donk when they take a bad beat it doesn't bother me.

Henry17 11-21-2007 07:58 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
People who trash talk are bad players. I'll happily put up with trash talking to keep them at the table.

fartman77 11-21-2007 08:13 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
Yes I believe you are being unreasonable. Policing the chat just makes you come off as a douche. The internet preys on your sensitivity and they win because you actually spend the energy in trying to report them. It's a waste of time, people are not going to change what they type especially if it is not harshly regulated. a warning from being reported is not enough reinforcement to change behavior. At the B&M, you can get thrown out if you keep it up.

Comparing online chat and B&M is just outright silly. It is not the same. poker sites are purely visual, you can turn off chat and play just as fine. In B&M you have to experience it whether you like it not. You have to deal with the audio expect of B&M; i cant drown it out with music because I would not be able to hear important info e.g checks, raises. Not to mention it slows down the game. Online, action moves on regardless of chat.

Honestly, it's merely sticks and stones. Words should never hurt you, especially when it comes from the interweb. since it does in your case, you need to develop some skin.

Craggoo 11-21-2007 08:23 AM

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Am I unreasonable to expect others to be courteous and respectful to the rest of the table?

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Yes you are. But you are not wrong.

If you have reported 10 people recently then you may be a little too sensitive. I think it is correct to report them if they are being abusive and using language that is totally inappropriate. However, if they are just rambling and calling people a donk when they take a bad beat it doesn't bother me.

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Its not rambling and calling people donk its stuff like "go stiff your dead parents, i hope your mom gets cancer, etc". I dont think its out of line to report people for stuff like that.

Craggoo 11-21-2007 08:31 AM

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Yes I believe you are being unreasonable. Policing the chat just makes you come off as a douche. The internet preys on your sensitivity and they win because you actually spend the energy in trying to report them. It's a waste of time, people are not going to change what they type especially if it is not harshly regulated. a warning from being reported is not enough reinforcement to change behavior. At the B&M, you can get thrown out if you keep it up.

Comparing online chat and B&M is just outright silly. It is not the same. poker sites are purely visual, you can turn off chat and play just as fine. In B&M you have to experience it whether you like it not. You have to deal with the audio expect of B&M; i cant drown it out with music because I would not be able to hear important info e.g checks, raises. Not to mention it slows down the game. Online, action moves on regardless of chat.

Honestly, it's merely sticks and stones. Words should never hurt you, especially when it comes from the interweb. since it does in your case, you need to develop some skin.

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I have actually played live a ton and have put up with a LOT of crap from people. Constant verbal harassment that comes just short of being thrown out of the casino. I've been threatened at my cardroom by someone with a massive ego and as he put it "isnt afraid to go back to prison".

As for the first part you wrote, I dont feel a need to "police" the table. If someone says something that is outright rude i'll ask them kindly if they have nothing good to say then dont say anything at all. Either they usually stop (not common) or come out with a whole barrage of other insults.

You're right, a warning wont stop them from continuing their ways. But eventually, if they dont change their ways they will lose their chat then mission accomplished right?

Spending 1 minute writing 1 paragraph to support takes as much energy as walking to my fridge. If this is really a reason to let people harass the table for hours then I think you have more serious issues then I supposedly have.

Rek 11-21-2007 08:33 AM

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Policing the chat just makes you come off as a douche.

[/ QUOTE ]No it doesn't. Just send a report to the site if you think it is warrented.

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It's a waste of time, people are not going to change what they type

[/ QUOTE ]They will if they are reported and lose chat ability. The more this happens the more people will control what they write. It can only be controlled if people report it.

hate_dr_dre 11-21-2007 08:40 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
congrats, you are a tattletale.

It's good that you are winning so much that you can take the time to report people rather than stand up for yourself, or better yet, be the bigger person and let it go.

and people berate all the time at B+M cardrooms, i dk what you are thinking of.

fartman77 11-21-2007 09:17 AM

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Spending 1 minute writing 1 paragraph to support takes as much energy as walking to my fridge. If this is really a reason to let people harass the table for hours then I think you have more serious issues then I supposedly have.

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No one is letting anyone be harassed. If you are being harassed for hours, you are doing so willingly. The quickest, most effective solution is to ignore the user/close chat.

Objectively speaking, I think you are doing others a disservice by reporting the person. Those who berate are likely on tilt, something people bank on. If anyone "lets" someone harass them, it is to use it to their advantage.

I find it ridiculous if you actually sit there and take the harassment for hours, allowing meaningless text to get to you.

fartman77 11-21-2007 09:32 AM

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Policing the chat just makes you come off as a douche.

[/ QUOTE ]No it doesn't. Just send a report to the site if you think it is warrented.

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imo, it does. Policing anything where you don't really have the authority, warrant or consensus for makes you a douche. Our president is a good example.

Flip-Flop 11-21-2007 09:45 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
Muting people or turning the chat off all together is such a valuable feature for overly sensitive people.

If it affects your game it would be silly not to use it.

Rek 11-21-2007 09:46 AM

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Policing anything where you don't really have the authority, warrant or consensus for makes you a douche.

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If thats what you think, fine. I guess you don't want the police called then if somebody notices that your house is being burgled whilst you are out.

tarheeljks 11-21-2007 09:52 AM

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imo, it does. Policing anything where you don't really have the authority, warrant or consensus for makes you a douche. Our president is a good example.

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but you do have the authority b/c you are given the ability to report.

brian64 11-21-2007 10:25 AM

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What pisses me off is when someone insults a fish "what a stupid bet...you are a moron" etc. and the fish leaves the table instead of donating more to my bankroll.

Johnes Benjamin 11-21-2007 11:09 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
It is so extremely easy to hit "ignore" or whatever your site's equivalent is. I think every site allows you to turn off a particular player's chat.


IF IT IS A BAD PLAYER THIS IS A REALLY HORRIBLE THING TO DO. JUST IGNORE THEM FOR THE SAKE OF EVERYONE STRUGGLING TO MAKE MONEY PLAYING POKER.

People play poker for different reasons. If someone is pathetic and plays online poker partially b/c it gives them a thrill to be a total douche then please let them have that so they continue donating.
I guess if they are pwning you though it is reasonable [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

choccypie 11-21-2007 02:39 PM

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What pisses me off is when someone insults a fish "what a stupid bet...you are a moron" etc. and the fish leaves the table instead of donating more to my bankroll.

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Yeah that annoys me too [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Tapping on the fish tank doesn't benefit anyone imo.

coffeegirl 11-21-2007 04:03 PM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
I love playing live poker because I am good at reading people and tells. Since you seem to be reporting players all the time maybe you should just stick to online poker.

Albert Moulton 11-21-2007 04:39 PM

Re: People that harass and berate
 

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Their stunt would not be tolerated in a B&M Cardroom so i see no reason why it should be tolerated on poker sites.

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If you're talking about on-line, then I would just "right-click, chat = off."

You can easily turn off their silly comments if it bothers you. And you can still see other people's comments if you want.

I would rather turn off their chat than report them.

fartman77 11-21-2007 05:34 PM

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imo, it does. Policing anything where you don't really have the authority, warrant or consensus for makes you a douche. Our president is a good example.

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but you do have the authority b/c you are given the ability to report.

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yes, about the same level of authority as a deputy or a hall monitor; it can be abused, it's not absolute and it's just enough to qualify you as a douche.

Craggoo 11-21-2007 08:29 PM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
So, let me make sure of something. Im a db because i report people who are making my playing experience unejoyable?

Qrawl 11-21-2007 10:38 PM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
You probably deserve to be berated if it happens during STTs. Horrible SNG play by others is hurting my ROI (i.e. refinancing shortstacks, not checking down, etc). Not to mention, poker players are horrible people and probably deserve to be berated.

PhxBo 11-21-2007 10:46 PM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
we should report you for snitchin. obviously they are tiltin. chat off is so simple. then if you want, turn it back on later. for you to report then post about it is pathetic. go cry to mommie.

yes I know I'm a troll, but this pisses me off.

Craggoo 11-21-2007 11:30 PM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
Yes, you are a troll so no we dont care what you have to say. And I dont play SNGs, i would rather bang my head into a wall repeatedly then do that.

PhxBo 11-21-2007 11:48 PM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
ouch I'm gonna report you

Craggoo 11-22-2007 12:24 AM

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ouch I'm gonna report you

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PhxBo 11-22-2007 12:34 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
that was way more clever than my response. you win snitch.

Craggoo 11-22-2007 01:14 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
I believe a snitch is someone who rat's on others who are conducting illegal activities. You are using the term incorrectly. DUCY?

Qrawl 11-22-2007 01:26 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
If the poker sites had a button to permanently disable chat, I would use it. In other words, once you click it, you can't enable it again, even if you wanted to. That would keep me from enabling it again and YELLING AT ALL THE IDIOTS making me lose money at SNGs

aislephive 11-22-2007 07:13 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
Why does this forum attract so many losers?

hate_dr_dre 11-22-2007 11:47 AM

Re: People that harass and berate
 
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So, let me make sure of something. Im a db because i report people who are making my playing experience unejoyable?

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yes. you are a db because you report people.

someone reported me today, the mod came to the table and found no chat infractions, and then told the player not to abuse the "call mod" button or he would risk losing his chat. It was so frickin awesome. I hope it was you OP.

Qrawl 11-22-2007 01:52 PM

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Why does this forum attract so many losers?

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Where else would you go.


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