Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

I just spoke with a friend and he knows 2 people who asked for hand history files from FTP this afternoon. When FTP sent the files, they included the hole cards of every player at the table, ala Absolute.

I have one of the files, here are a couple hands as proof:

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FullTiltPoker Game #4226094161: Table Jewel Springs - $5/$10 - No Limit Omaha H/L - 7:06:46 ET - 2007/11/19

Seat 1: EVGA ($800)
Seat 2: PiranhaFlower ($1,417.25)
Seat 3: CameoCandy ($4,220.75)
Seat 4: boston15 ($396.85)
Seat 5: Vladimir ($1,479.10)
Seat 6: AnjouP ($262)
Seat 7: troyomac ($1,510.15)
Seat 8: GASSS_U ($1,329)
Seat 9: Pickal ($213.50)
Pickal posts the small blind of $5
EVGA posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EVGA [9d Qs 7s Jc]
Dealt to PiranhaFlower [4c As Kc 9h]
Dealt to CameoCandy [2d Qd Tc Th]
Dealt to boston15 [3s Ad 4d 6s]
Dealt to Vladimir [5s 8d 8c Jd]
Dealt to AnjouP [9c 3h 3d 6d]
Dealt to troyomac [4h 7h 2s Js]
Dealt to GASSS_U [2h Ts 4s 6c]
Dealt to Pickal [Jh 8h 9s Ks]
PiranhaFlower folds
CameoCandy has 15 seconds left to act
CameoCandy folds
boston15 raises to $35
Vladimir folds
AnjouP folds
troyomac folds
GASSS_U folds
Pickal folds
EVGA folds
Uncalled bet of $25 returned to boston15
boston15 mucks
boston15 wins the pot ($25)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $25 | Rake $0
Seat 1: EVGA (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: PiranhaFlower didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: CameoCandy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: boston15 collected ($25)
Seat 5: Vladimir didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: AnjouP didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: troyomac didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: GASSS_U (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Pickal (small blind) folded before the Flop


*********** # 775 **************
FullTiltPoker Game #4226053591: Table Jewel Springs - $5/$10 - No Limit Omaha H/L - 6:54:20 ET - 2007/11/19

Seat 1: SwingRoll ($951)
Seat 2: PiranhaFlower ($1,432.25)
Seat 3: CameoCandy ($4,538.75)
Seat 4: boston15 ($549.85)
Seat 5: Vladimir ($1,392.10)
Seat 6: AnjouP ($215)
Seat 7: troyomac ($1,521.65)
Seat 8: GASSS_U ($990)
Seat 9: Pickal ($200)
troyomac posts the small blind of $5
GASSS_U posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SwingRoll [As Kh Th 2c]
Dealt to PiranhaFlower [5d Qh 2d 9s]
Dealt to CameoCandy [6s 6h 9h 7h]
Dealt to boston15 [Td Qd Qs 8h]
Dealt to Vladimir [Jc 3d Ad 4h]
Dealt to AnjouP [2s 5c Js Qc]
Dealt to troyomac [5h Tc 7s 6c]
Dealt to GASSS_U [Jh 4c 7c 3h]
SwingRoll calls $10
PiranhaFlower folds
CameoCandy folds
boston15 calls $10
Vladimir calls $10
AnjouP folds
troyomac calls $5
GASSS_U checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 8d Kd]
troyomac checks
GASSS_U checks
SwingRoll has 15 seconds left to act
CameoCandy: i hope you're joking
SwingRoll has timed out
SwingRoll checks
boston15 has 15 seconds left to act
boston15 bets $10
Vladimir calls $10
troyomac folds
GASSS_U folds
SwingRoll folds
*** TURN *** [2h 8d Kd] [7d]
boston15 checks
Vladimir checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 8d Kd 7d] [Ac]
boston15 bets $60
Vladimir has 15 seconds left to act
Vladimir raises to $567
CameoCandy: 2 away from cash in a 45 man sng
boston15 has 15 seconds left to act
boston15: ace high flush?
CameoCandy: im 3rd shortest stack
boston15 has timed out
boston15 folds
Uncalled bet of $507 returned to Vladimir
boston15: dam i got the q
Vladimir mucks
Vladimir wins the pot ($187)



This is pretty scary....

Re: Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

crazy

Re: Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

standard. No wonder everyone plays perfectly against me?

Mark

Re: Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

email support and ask to be upgraded to a 1.2.x-real-time account. This info doesn't do much good if you only get it after the hand is played DUCY?

Re: Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

This is really really bad. After the whole AP debacle, I have no clue how a site can let this happen.

Re: Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

i call bs.. because everyone knows full tilt isn't competent enough to send out any hand histories.

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This is really really bad. After the whole AP debacle, I have no clue how a site can let this happen.

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I can't think of a site where I've not had all the hole cards shown at some point in a hand history. It's not exactly a major issue as long as it's a rare occurence or used to prove someone wasn't colluding.

<font color="white"> Lori </font>

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i dunno.. i dont think the OP would just make this up. ill bet you 100 giving you 2 to 1 that it really happened

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This is really really bad. After the whole AP debacle, I have no clue how a site can let this happen.

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I can't think of a site where I've not had all the hole cards shown at some point in a hand history. It's not exactly a major issue as long as it's a rare occurence or used to prove someone wasn't colluding.

<font color="white"> Lori </font>

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Its a big issue in my mind that FTP doesn't have some automated script by now that when a hand history is created some support person just runs the program, enters the s/n of the person, how many hands they want, and boom it spits it out.

This isn't rocket science, there just should NEVER be a case of this happening, it boggles my mind.

Mark

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This is really really bad. After the whole AP debacle, I have no clue how a site can let this happen.

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I can't think of a site where I've not had all the hole cards shown at some point in a hand history. It's not exactly a major issue as long as it's a rare occurence or used to prove someone wasn't colluding.

<font color="white"> Lori </font>

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but it would seem that everyone that requested hand histories during this time got to see everyone's hole cards. could possibly be a few hundred people.

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[x] Not important enough for its own thread because its Omaha

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This is really really bad. After the whole AP debacle, I have no clue how a site can let this happen.

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I can't think of a site where I've not had all the hole cards shown at some point in a hand history. It's not exactly a major issue as long as it's a rare occurence or used to prove someone wasn't colluding.

<font color="white"> Lori </font>

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Its a big issue in my mind that FTP doesn't have some automated script by now that when a hand history is created some support person just runs the program, enters the s/n of the person, how many hands they want, and boom it spits it out.

This isn't rocket science, there just should NEVER be a case of this happening, it boggles my mind.

Mark

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At least they didn't send out a list of players names and match them to usernames like a certain other site did a couple of years ago.

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email support and ask to be upgraded to a 1.2.x-real-time account. This info doesn't do much good if you only get it after the hand is played DUCY?

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you dont think having access to your opponents hole cards for 1000 hands would give you some sort of advantage?

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beat: cant read hand histories anyway because its omaha

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This is really really bad. After the whole AP debacle, I have no clue how a site can let this happen.

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I can't think of a site where I've not had all the hole cards shown at some point in a hand history. It's not exactly a major issue as long as it's a rare occurence or used to prove someone wasn't colluding.

<font color="white"> Lori </font>

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but it would seem that everyone that requested hand histories during this time got to see everyone's hole cards. could possibly be a few hundred people.

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As long as it's a rare error, I still fail to see what the problem is, even if it's everyone on the site for a short period.

The point made about it being surprising that they haven't automated it yet is the only sensible criticism really.

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[x] Not important enough for its own thread because its Omaha

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Better?

FullTiltPoker Game #418720752: Table Lusso (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:50:37 ET - 2007/11/15

Seat 1: cdw1323 ($117.25)
Seat 2: dblizz ($31.40)
Seat 3: Eewga - Booga ($83.45)
Seat 4: GICUP ($43.70)
Seat 5: Superdonk [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ($79.60)
Seat 6: Dr Philgrave ($29.80)
Superdonk [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] has 5 seconds left to act
Superdonk [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] posts the small blind of $0.25
Dr Philgrave posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cdw1323 [Tc Jd]
Dealt to dblizz [6d 2s]
Dealt to Eewga - Booga [3c 6s]
Dealt to GICUP [8s 8c]
Dealt to Superdonk [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [5c Ts]
Dealt to Dr Philgrave [Qs Js]
cdw1323 folds
dblizz folds
Eewga - Booga folds
GICUP calls $0.50
Superdonk [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] folds
Dr Philgrave raises to $1.75
GICUP raises to $5.50
Dr Philgrave calls $3.75
*** FLOP *** [4d Ah Kc]
Dr Philgrave checks
GICUP bets $11.25
Dr Philgrave folds
Uncalled bet of $11.25 returned to GICUP
GICUP mucks
GICUP wins the pot ($10.70)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $11.25 | Rake $0.55
Board: [4d Ah Kc]
Seat 1: cdw1323 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: dblizz didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Eewga - Booga didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: GICUP (button) collected ($10.70)
Seat 5: Superdonk [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Dr Philgrave (big blind) folded on the Flop

Mark

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beat: cant read hand histories anyway because its omaha

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go to my thread in the high stakes forum... there are no limit holdem HH in there

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Dealt to GICUP [8s 8c]


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obv not full tilt, as there weren't at least two higher pocket pairs dealt in the same hand

Re: Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

Hmm... I can see the negatives of releasing lots of full view HHs. Like, unleash the POTR1PPER witch hunt plz?

Re: Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

lulz

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they have to fix it as fast as possible. :-/

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i call bs.. because everyone knows full tilt isn't competent enough to send out any hand histories.

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Re: Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

MY CARDS HAVE HOLES IN THEM WHAT IS THIS A PINNACLE DECK

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email support and ask to be upgraded to a 1.2.x-real-time account. This info doesn't do much good if you only get it after the hand is played DUCY?

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Are you leveling? come on you dont think its any good if the info is released after the hand is over. Opponents have to pay to see my cards DUCY? sheesh.. I hope to have you on my table whenever i play!!

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MY CARDS HAVE HOLES IN THEM WHAT IS THIS A PINNACLE DECK

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Re: Full Tilt Poker sending out HHs with everyones hole cards
 

lol

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[x] Not important enough for its own thread because its Omaha

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Yes it's such a strange obscure game that none of the serious high stakes players play.