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Riku 11-20-2007 04:09 PM

88
 
CO and SB are both pretty bad players. Generally just call too much pf and call with weak holdings (a high) post flop. Esp SB calls tons of things even 3 cold.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, CO calls, Hero...

General thoughts. SB could have a hand or a draw. CO could have just nothing. Even though i might have the best hand now, im stuck with both of these players and the turn and river could change a lot. Some bad RIO.

Bona 11-20-2007 04:22 PM

Re: 88
 
We have good position. Several turn cards could give us a redraw. The pot is offering 12:1 now and closing the action. I'm gonna call this flop and see what comes up.

Second Toughest 11-20-2007 04:23 PM

Re: 88
 
I’d call flop. Don’t think raising is going to fold anyone.

Assuming a safe turn, if it’s checked to us, bet. If it’s bet in front of us, I’d raise it and fold if re-raised. Call river.

If the turn is scary and we are bet to, I’m not sure. Probably fold against 2 opponents, or call down 1?

KitCloudkicker 11-20-2007 04:25 PM

Re: 88
 
call the flop.

prediction: at least one gruncher will say "raise to find out where i'm at" [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

KaatzMeow 11-20-2007 04:26 PM

Re: 88
 
Well, we are getting 11:1 and closing the action...we have at the very most 4 outs...close call...we call I think.

Smarazza 11-20-2007 04:33 PM

Re: 88
 
Folding here is too weak?
I mean.. sb cold call 3-bet.. then bet the flop.. Co could have a FD.. doesn't seems a good spot for our hand.

(I know, i'm weak [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img])

Aaron W. 11-20-2007 04:41 PM

Re: 88
 
*Grunch*

Raise to find out where you're at. <font color="white"> Sorry, Kit... I couldn't help myself </font>

neurotiq 11-20-2007 05:11 PM

Re: 88
 
[ QUOTE ]
CO and SB are both pretty bad players. Generally just call too much pf

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm kinda curious about CO's PFR/stealing range. You tell me that he calls too much preflop, but you don't tell me what he raises with preflop?

LukeSLTS 11-20-2007 05:22 PM

Re: 88
 
I like calling here. Please spike the 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] so the turn play is easier.

00Snitch 11-20-2007 06:11 PM

Re: 88
 
[ QUOTE ]

*Grunch*

Raise to find out where you're at.


[/ QUOTE ]

lawl.

Douglas Leslie 11-20-2007 06:44 PM

Re: 88
 
I don't think that you are strong enough to raise here, and I don't know whether you would want to take a free card on the turn even if it were available to you. I think I just call and re-evaluate on the turn.

Harv72b 11-21-2007 02:32 AM

Re: 88
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like calling here. Please runner runner 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] so you pwn A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

JJack 11-21-2007 05:06 AM

Re: 88
 
I peel flop and revalue at turn.

maverickai 11-21-2007 06:52 AM

Re: 88
 
grunching... we can't be sure of SB's hand. But I believe CO has broadway overcards. I'll call the flop, and evaluate the turn. But it's good you've got position.

maverickai 11-21-2007 06:55 AM

Re: 88
 
[ QUOTE ]
*Grunch*

Raise to find out where you're at. <font color="white"> Sorry, Kit... I couldn't help myself </font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Haha, you guys are funny! I was alarmed at Aaron's reply..... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S 11-22-2007 12:04 AM

Re: 88
 
raise the flop


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