NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 

Villain is a 57/5/0.6 gem. Unfortunately, he had doubled up on me on this hand a couple orbits ago:

BTN: $103.50
SB: $99
BB: $319.45
UTG: $189
UTG+1: $259.55
Hero (MP1): $476.05
MP2: $446.70
CO: $77.10

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP1)
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($22) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $34</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $99</font>, SB calls $56 and is All-In

Turn: ($202) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($202) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $202 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Nines) and WON $199 (+$100 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$99 NET)

So, here is the hand at question:

SB: $39
BB: $187
UTG: $233.35
UTG+1: $253.20
MP1: $228.25
Hero (MP2): $403.15
CO: $328
BTN: $87.85

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $7, UTG calls $7

Flop: ($28) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($28) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $24</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to ??

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 

81

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 

$72.

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$72.

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I think I would normally go a little larger than 72, can someone explain to me why this would be wrong?

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ALL YOU CAN EAT BABY!!

ahem. I mean.. $80

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I think I would normally go a little larger than 72, can someone explain to me why this would be wrong?

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The idea in my mind is to bet large enough he'll call with whatever junk he has and to price out whatever draw he might be on, whether it be two pair, straight outs to split, etc.

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$66

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Huh, maybe it's just bc I play on Bodog and will get instacalled by any 2 pair and most flush draws, maybe even some straight draws.

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You should raise preflop to 5.5BB instead of 4.5BB. Cts explain this at his first cardrunner vid.

72 over 66

Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into
 

Well, looks like I maybe undershot just a tad by making it 65, but I didn't want to scare him away. In retrospect though, people like this don't fold, so a bigger raise probably would have been good.

River was of course probably the single worst card in the deck.. T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

He donks 44 into a 157 dollar pot on the river. This is still a call, right?

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3:1, its a call