Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

Villain is Salaro. I have him at 24/20/10. Havent played any hands with him this session yet, but in the past I found him to be extremely agressive, and 3bets quite often out of blinds.

Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Button: $228.20
SB: $220.50
BB: $200.00
UTG: $197.00
MP: $191.00
CO: $198.00
Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises to $25</font>, Hero calls $18.
Flop: ($51.00) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets $34</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $173 (all in)

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

If he really does 3bet a lot and cbets this amount with his whole range, then yes.

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

min raise flop

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

I doubt it is plus EV, too much of an overbet, he will call if he has you crushed and might call with strong draw. If the raise was a more natural size while mainting good fold equity (that is if more money were in pot to be gained from the play) it might be plus EV but I wouldn't like that a whole lot either ...

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

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This is from faq, and in general i don't think that oneliners contribute very good to depth discussion on how a hand was played. Especially not when you take an alternative line, which i think that a minraise would be, i think it would be mandatory to tell us your thoughts, instead of 5 newbies like myself will need to post WHY ZE FACK U WANNA MINRAISE ZIS FLOP?

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So why is you minraising? You think it gains more FE, are you folding to a push? I think folding to a push would be bad since we would only need to be good 25% of the time, and a quick estimate is that we will hit one of our 7outs around 25-30% of the time.

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

LOL...couldn't you have just asked rather than posting all that crap?

min raise leaves villain room to make a mistake.

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

the mistake being... Overshoving overcards or underpairs?

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min raise leaves villain room to make a mistake.

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It also leaves room for hero to make mistake on villain's push.

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

yeah calling and committing are both better than minraise/folding

unless you mean you plan on getting it in if he 3bets, LD?

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

of course i plan on getting it in if he 3bets...i wouldn't raise if i didn't.

you can obv make a case for calling but i think min raise is much better than pushing.

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min raise leaves villain room to make a mistake.

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It also leaves room for hero to make mistake on villain's push.

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what mistake is that in comparison to just shoving it in on the flop?

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

Miniraise on this drawy board is crap imho. i like it if the board is dry. The real question is how much will he second barrel you with air or when scare hits. Since his 3betting raise is wide u don't even know which cards to dodge so i would just stick it in , if you are behind you most likely have 5 outs which isn't horrible at all.

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

so lucid, you are arguing that theres more value in raising to induce than there is folding equity against hansd like 8x/99/TT if we make a committing raise?

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

based on OPs read that he is extremely aggro, I....

1) am not going to give him credit for folding any hand that beats us only 100bb deep.

2) think an extremely aggro person won't be able to resist pushing here w/ AK/AQ/KQ at least some of the time.

plus we most likely always have 5 outs. i don't min raise in this spot 100% vs everyone but vs this type of player i think it's best in comparison to shoving. calling could be OK too.

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Does anybody except me folds this preflop?? if he 3bets alot there are tons of better spots to call him IP

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Is he ever calling the minraising with say, GS+overs?

The other problem with minraising is that he will shove some FD+over combos which we are flopping against and would like to just fold out using a shove (although he will rarely fold them even if shoved upon).

Otherwise I like minraising to incite shoves from overcards... only question - what else are you minraising with?

Re: Is this +EV against Aggro light 3better?
 

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min raise leaves villain room to make a mistake.

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It also leaves room for hero to make mistake on villain's push.

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Does anybody except me folds this preflop?? if he 3bets alot there are tons of better spots to call him IP

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+1

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min raise leaves villain room to make a mistake.

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It also leaves room for hero to make mistake on villain's push.

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hahahahahahahahaha

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