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dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:17 AM

50k hands of NL100 - stat check
 
Dunno how useful this is but I thought I'd post my stats for my last 50k hands at NL100 to see if anyone sees any obvious leaks or things to consider. I'm generally pretty happy with my game and I could easily add 1 ptbb without tilt. One thing I've been thinking about is blind play. There are people whose VPIP from SB is considerably higher than the total VPIP whereas mine are identical. Any thoughts on this?

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6151/50kpn1.jpg

nazahl 11-20-2007 01:18 AM

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[x] brag

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:23 AM

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That too obv.

manupod 11-20-2007 01:26 AM

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Call more pf. Seriously.

Rico Rich 11-20-2007 01:27 AM

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how long for the 50k hands?

Xanta 11-20-2007 01:27 AM

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Looks real solid. I would say on a list of leaks a SSNL player can have, plays too few pots OOP is way down at the bottom. Keep it up, and stop beating me by .5PTBB/100 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:29 AM

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~40k hands in november, the rest in october.

pineapple888 11-20-2007 01:31 AM

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Gee, an super-aggro 24/20. Imagine that.

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:32 AM

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Gee, an super-aggro 24/20. Imagine that.

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Is that good or bad? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

pineapple888 11-20-2007 01:33 AM

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Gee, an super-aggro 24/20. Imagine that.

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Is that good or bad? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It's good apparently. I'm tempted to just give up on table selection, play 24/20 pre, bet every street post, and 12-table. Cause it sure seems to work pretty well.

h_ven 11-20-2007 01:34 AM

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Whats your multi-table ratio and where do you play at?

Could you post your position stats?

Looks very solid so far, keep it up.

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:40 AM

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Whats your multi-table ratio and where do you play at?

Could you post your position stats?

Looks very solid so far, keep it up.

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http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7642/50kposln1.jpg

I seem to lose from UTG. Biggest losers AA/AJo/QQ/AQs. Variance probably?

I play at Stars, MT ratio is 2.97.

Josem 11-20-2007 01:46 AM

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i suspect that you open your range just a little too much when the pot is unopened to you on the button, and not enough over limpers.

h_ven 11-20-2007 01:49 AM

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I seem to lose from UTG. Biggest losers AA/AJo/QQ/AQs. Variance probably?

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It's gotta be, I don't think playing AA and QQ from UTG is loose, obv.
Maybe AJo is a little loose, but if you're playing 24/20 you're obviously not folding AJ anywhere. I tend to overplay AKs and AQs as their winrates are slightly smaller AKo and AQo.

You must put in some big hours if you got 40K hands in one month 3 tabling. Maybe I need to lower my # of tables and concentrate on playing better.

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:51 AM

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Fair point, but I try to table select so I have tight players in the blinds and fish on my right so with an optimal table I can steal the blinds with any two cards. Are you referring to "attempt to steal blinds"?

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:53 AM

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You must put in some big hours if you got 40K hands in one month 3 tabling. Maybe I need to lower my # of tables and concentrate on playing better.

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According to PT I play 8h/day on average. I realized around two months ago that I can't focus well with 4+ tables so I've just accepted that.

Josem 11-20-2007 01:54 AM

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Fair point, but I try to table select so I have tight players in the blinds and fish on my right so with an optimal table I can steal the blinds with any two cards. Are you referring to "attempt to steal blinds"?

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yes, i was.

while table selection is awesome (and i'm a big fan of it), i think you're being excessively discerning if you're this fussy.

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:55 AM

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I mainly 4-table but I actively table select so I often have only 3 tables running and sometimes I'm down to 2. If I don't find good games I fill up with either NL50 or NL200 (when I feel I'm playing/running good).

nazahl 11-20-2007 01:56 AM

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You must put in some big hours if you got 40K hands in one month 3 tabling. Maybe I need to lower my # of tables and concentrate on playing better.

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According to PT I play 8h/day on average. I realized around two months ago that I can't focus well with 4+ tables so I've just accepted that.

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jesus

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:57 AM

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while table selection is awesome (and i'm a big fan of it), i think you're being excessively discerning if you're this fussy.

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As I just said my play starts to detoriate with over 4 tables so I compensate by table selecting. I've also noticed that having fish to my left can tilt me very hard.

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 01:58 AM

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Lol this is turning into a well.

Josem 11-20-2007 02:02 AM

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try the software forum for software to make it easier to multitable.

primate 11-20-2007 02:07 AM

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brag. heater.

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 02:08 AM

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brag. heater.

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I have 60-70k hands in my old database with a winrate of ~4.5ptbb.

Xanta 11-20-2007 02:10 AM

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Seriously, I never thought that'd I'd be able to do over 4 tables, and with a bet of practice, a nice monitor and a bit of software it's pretty natural. The 50% increase in the hourly is sick, and I feel like I'm paying almost as much attention as I did before. Give it a shot. Def not for everyone, but finding 6 good 100NL tables is not tough.

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 02:11 AM

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try the software forum for software to make it easier to multitable.

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I don't really mind 3-4 tabling. I can sit and observe players and make notes. When I 6-table I don't have time enough to write things down. And it's more stressful. I tilt too easily already. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 02:15 AM

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Seriously, I never thought that'd I'd be able to do over 4 tables, and with a bet of practice, a nice monitor and a bit of software it's pretty natural. The 50% increase in the hourly is sick, and I feel like I'm paying almost as much attention as I did before. Give it a shot. Def not for everyone, but finding 6 good 100NL tables is not tough.

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Yeah I have a 20" 1600x1200 monitor which lets me 9-table without overlap. That was probably the main cause to my huge downswing in august lol.

Josem 11-20-2007 02:15 AM

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I don't really mind not maximising my win-rate.

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fyp.

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I can sit and observe players and make notes. When I 6-table I don't have time enough to write things down. And it's more stressful. I tilt too easily already. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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you can do all these things across more tables if you use the software available to you to improve the speed of betting/folding/etc.

primate 11-20-2007 02:16 AM

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Your obv choosing the right opponents to play at. I think your prolly exploitable by observant tags, esp from blinds.
Do you get 4 bet at alot when 3betting from the blinds?

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 02:17 AM

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Ok, I won't argue about this. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I'll try adding tables when I move to a new apartment in mid-december. Right now I enjoy sitting in the sofa with my laptop all day. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 02:19 AM

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Your obv choosing the right opponents to play at. I think your prolly exploitable by observant tags, esp from blinds.
Do you get 4 bet at alot when 3betting from the blinds?

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Not too much. They usually call and raise my c-bets. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

pineapple888 11-20-2007 02:25 AM

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Ok, I won't argue about this. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I'll try adding tables when I move to a new apartment in mid-december. Right now I enjoy sitting in the sofa with my laptop all day. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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There's a sweet spot for everyone, if you can do 3 tables 8 hours a day and don't mind it there may be little reason to change. I can 6-7 table for a while if they are all sweet but after more than an hour or so I start to get frazzled so it's not a good overall spot for me.

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 03:08 AM

Re: 50k hands of NL100 - stat check
 
So far I've gotten suggestions that I should/could:

- increase my current hourly rate by playing more tables, seek help from software
- start calling more from the blinds
- concentrate on stealing the blinds when there is more dead money in form of limpers and not so much when it's folded to me on the BTN

Any other ideas?

cakewalk 11-20-2007 03:49 AM

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only thing i can suggest is open less from SB and win more at showdown.

dirtylobster 11-20-2007 03:56 AM

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Someone suggested I should call more in the blinds and you're suggesting to fold more. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I was very tight in the blinds when I started playing and I've been gradually loosening up. Though actually the last few days I've been more careful of what I open in the SB depending on the villain.

Any ideas how to win more at showdown and/or what's the cause of it being so low? When I played nittier 20/18 it was around 50% but since I've loosened up it's hovered around 47%.

Nielsio 11-20-2007 04:09 AM

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lobster,

I suggest you stay playing 3-4 tables if that keeps your winrate up real nice and if that helps you improve your game.

Having a possible higher hourly (I say possible, because that's certainly not always the case) in the short term is what makes people forget about having a higher hourly in the long term. Namely: get better -> move up -> profit.

Changing your game for the better is not easy and you want to allow yourself to have room for improvement.

Speedlimits 11-20-2007 04:18 AM

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looks good except low river AF

Pete H 11-20-2007 04:19 AM

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lobster,

I suggest you stay playing 3-4 tables if that keeps your winrate up real nice and if that helps you improve your game.

Having a possible higher hourly (I say possible, because that's certainly not always the case) in the short term is what makes people forget about having a higher hourly in the long term. Namely: get better -> move up -> profit.

Changing your game for the better is not easy and you want to allow yourself to have room for improvement.

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My thoughts exactly.

Playing like a robot doesn't improve your game.

sh58 11-20-2007 10:02 AM

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i don't think you should be pushing your MT ratio. just keep playing well just like you have been. maybe when you are really experienced you can moveup to more tables, but it isn't really necessary.

your stats look really good so far. good work

don't listen to advice saying you should call more out of the blinds, looks like you are doing just fine

storman99 11-20-2007 12:49 PM

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Whats your multi-table ratio and where do you play at?

Could you post your position stats?

Looks very solid so far, keep it up.

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http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7642/50kposln1.jpg

I seem to lose from UTG. Biggest losers AA/AJo/QQ/AQs. Variance probably?

I play at Stars, MT ratio is 2.97.

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tighten up UTG and MP. raise UTG 11% of the time and 12 -13% in MP
your losers AA/AJo/QQ/AQs UTG is from having more players seeing the flop.
with your aggressive style your getting called more when you raise UTG because they dont believe you have a strong hand.
bigblind; raise more when one of the weaker players limp [even better if it's a short stack]


for your style of play your aggressive stats look great preflop and postflop.


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