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mdkrahn 11-20-2007 01:00 AM

200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
-just sat down this orbit
-no reads on anyone


Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $277.03
Hero: $200
Button: $503.03
SB: $397.30
BB: $203

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $26</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($105, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero??




What's my plan here?
If I bet, I'm pot stuck right?
Easy bet?

the machine 11-20-2007 01:10 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
id just bet, were only worried about 2 hands KJ/JJ

spivey 11-20-2007 01:11 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
I'm not sure if I'd like b/f of ~$75 more than b/c. I guess I'd b/c, convincing myself people are idiots and could end up with QT or KQ or the other AK.

ofishstix 11-20-2007 01:12 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
people play poorly and cold call 3bets with kk and aa so we're scared of those as well. 44 is in utgs range as well and maybe even in BB's. id either check here and see what happens or think for a while and bet 44 and call most of the time.

achtzhen 11-20-2007 01:22 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
I couldnt check here.

bet 50 on flop

If anyone smooth calls be worried about 44 and jj. c turn

Fold to a shove.

shpanko 11-20-2007 04:59 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
bet $50, prob never fold

albinp 11-20-2007 08:54 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
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bet $50, prob never fold

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billybeartku 11-20-2007 10:48 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
your SPR is only 1.X, given that, I'm happy to get in with my TPTK here.

dersl 11-20-2007 11:09 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
3betting with AK and then folding TPTK is horrible...

JFsports 11-20-2007 11:26 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
I think you have to bet/call, but I wouldn't be happy about it

scallop 11-20-2007 11:35 AM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
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bet $50, prob never fold

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I would fold if UTG or Button shoved.

billybeartku 11-20-2007 02:40 PM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
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bet $50, prob never fold

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I would fold if UTG or Button shoved.

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it's checked to him, I'd bet 75 and call shove(def not happy about it) or get it in on any Turn if flop bet gets called. If you check and button checks, there are many turn cards that would slow you, a Queen, Jack, Ten,or 9 are all bad cards for your AK. So I say bet out and protect your hand is the only way. Any better lines than this guys? I can't think of any IMO. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

BigMac1082 11-20-2007 05:42 PM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
definitely bet, get it in if raised. if I get flat called I would slow down on turn and probably vbet river unimproved.

not sure exactly on the math here but if they did go setmining here, I think it is +ev longterm even if you stack off in this spot.

Rocco_835 11-20-2007 05:52 PM

Re: 200NL - 4 way, 3bet pot, flop tptk
 
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3betting with AK and then folding TPTK is horrible...

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