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how important is it, seems to me like theres no way a company could be succesfull if they were hiring new people based on G.P.A

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if you aren't go to grad school, doesn't really matter too much, afaik.

3.3 vs. 3.6 could be big for grad school, but most people i know out of college have jobs that aren't correlated to gpa at all.

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Keep it as high as you can. Your GPA follows you forever, and you never know what you might want to do in the future, or what the future of hiring processes is.

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Lots of companies ask for GPA. Some even ask for graduate school GPA. It is a mistake to think that GPA means nothing just because some companies don't care or think it doesn't correlate with success.

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Forgive me for this silly question I don't know much about all this. I go to a community college in california, my gpa is a horrible 2.6, what are my chances of transfering into let's say an out of state university like for example the university of oklahoma? (80% acceptance rate i read in a college guide book)

Is my gpa just too bad to get into any university?

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Forgive me for this silly question I don't know much about all this. I go to a community college in california, my gpa is a horrible 2.6, what are my chances of transfering into let's say an out of state university like for example the university of oklahoma? (80% acceptance rate i read in a college guide book)

Is my gpa just too bad to get into any university?

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what year? i kno some UCs will actually accept transfers with GPAs hovering at about 3.0 and maybe lower. UC is much more forgiving for transfer students than for students straight out of high school. your gpa isnt too bad until youve given up.

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GPAs are only important if you want to goto Grad School and your first job. Otherwise I doubt your going to continue to put it on your resume.

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LF,

why bother going to community college if you are going to get a 2.6?

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why bother going to community college if you are going to get a 2.6?

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Assuming you have no previous knowledge of this guy, and my apologies if you do, I think this is a pretty dumb thing to say.

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Your GPA follows you forever

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This isn't even close to being true. Hardly anyone lists their GPA on their resume after they have enough work experience. The work experience is more recent and much more relevant to any new position you might take than your college GPA. Basically, if you have a subpar GPA and have to take a first job that isn't what you would like, you need to kick ass at that job even more than normal.

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Your GPA follows you forever

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This isn't even close to being true. Hardly anyone lists their GPA on their resume after they have enough work experience. The work experience is more recent and much more relevant to any new position you might take than your college GPA. Basically, if you have a subpar GPA and have to take a first job that isn't what you would like, you need to kick ass at that job even more than normal.

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I agree that it doesn't follow you at work (at least not usually), but if in ten years he wants to further his education it will certainly follow him. Mind you, I live in Canada and you guys might have different rules down there.

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You're.

Successful.

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GPA means nothing if you aren't planning on going to grad school. When applying for jobs after uni the person with a 3.0 and good personal skills will get the job over an anti-social bookworm for sure.

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Forgive me for this silly question I don't know much about all this. I go to a community college in california, my gpa is a horrible 2.6, what are my chances of transfering into let's say an out of state university like for example the university of oklahoma? (80% acceptance rate i read in a college guide book)

Is my gpa just too bad to get into any university?

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sorry man but it's pretty slim. you'd be lucky to get a shot at a state uni. the 80% acceptance rate is more likely from in-staters. do you really want to pay out-of-state tuition for UO? granted it's not a bad school but i wouldn't want to pay 20,000+ but i guess if that's your only shot..

most transfers usually have high grades from a CC where the course load is much easier/weaker than that of at a real college. to even think about transferring to Cal or UCLA you would need at least a 3.8.

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GPA means nothing if you aren't planning on going to grad school. When applying for jobs after uni the person with a 3.0 and good personal skills will get the job over an anti-social bookworm for sure.

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In many many fields/companies, this is so wrong it's not even funny. Often, the person with the lower GPA won't even get an interview, so it's pretty hard to demonstrate your wonderful personality when no one is willing to talk to you to begin with. Furthermore, your argument assumes that people with higher GPAs are less sociable. The people who are doing the hiring know this is a myth.

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It depends on the type of job you are looking to get. Most finance companies look for a base line GPA. For example, the options trading firm I just interned at was going through fall recruitment right now, so I got to see how it works. They threw out every resume with below a 3.3 GPA (higher for certain schools) without even reading them.

So you definitely need to keep your GPA up if you want to have a lot of opportunities right out of college.

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Your GPA follows you forever

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This isn't even close to being true. Hardly anyone lists their GPA on their resume after they have enough work experience. The work experience is more recent and much more relevant to any new position you might take than your college GPA. Basically, if you have a subpar GPA and have to take a first job that isn't what you would like, you need to kick ass at that job even more than normal.

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this (the 2nd post) is basically true in the engineering world.

the GPA is all the counts when you are starting off fresh college. don't bother applying if you are below a 3.0. as you build up your exp. in the field, that is what will count on your resume later in life.

to deny a 40 year old job who's been in the business for 20+ years just because he didn't fare too well in college is foolish.

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I interviewed for various finance positions. The top tier ones required a 3.70 GPA, the second tier a 3.50 GPA, and the third tier a 3.25 GPA.

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So what jobs do people with 2.5 g.p.a's get?

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Not very good ones. Maybe one from your dad or your dad's friends.

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fack i better learn play pokah, my 2.10 gpa ain't gonna cut it.

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I interviewed for various finance positions. The top tier ones required a 3.70 GPA, the second tier a 3.50 GPA, and the third tier a 3.25 GPA.

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That's interesting because the minimum GPA for the Finance major at my school is a 3.3.

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Not very good ones. Maybe one from your dad or your dad's friends.

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lets say my dad is a hobo

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i'm guessing you're all talking about cumulative gpa. what about people with upward trends/rocky first years who then did well?
freshman yr 2.6
soph 3.5

that's pretty much where I'm at, and while my gpa will probably wind up in the 3.0-3.3 range, I'm wondering how forgiving most employers are of a bad freshman year, improvement, etc.

also, aside from the networking advantages, do employers generally know/care about the difference in a state school vs. a top 10-15 lac?

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There are a small group of employers that will only recruit from top schools (Big Banks, Trading Groups) and the rest don't really care as much.

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If you stand out enough you can have a shot at a job anywhere. I know a few people that got recruited to Goldman Sachs from Penn State, but obviously they were exceptional.

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usually your degree doesnt even matter as much as work experiance so if u have a sub par gpa, id say just get out in the real world and get some experiance.

youre not stuck at whatever job you start out at and many people change companies and even industries after there first few years and gpa will get less and less important as you go so just do your best in school and at your job and youll be good to go

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Everyone saying GPA doesn't matter is pretty out of it, atleast in the finance field. Your goal coming out of school is to land interviews. Many employers (atleast most ones you would actually want to work at) screen resumes for GPA. If your GPA doesn't exceed the cutoff, into the trash pile. This is not true in all cases, and good internship experience can offset a bad GPA.

That said, after your first job, work experience is much more important. However, there is still a cumulative effect. If your first job sucks, because your GPA sucked, well, your next job may only be one pip higher (whereas your first job out of school would have skipped this tier if you had a good GPA). Is this a golden rule? No, but you get the point: a good GPA gives you an excellent chance to accelerate your career.

Once you land an interview, GPA doesn't mean much.

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3.3 vs. 3.6 could be big for grad school, but most people i know out of college have jobs that aren't correlated to gpa at all.

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Agreed, but a 3.3 to a 2.9 is a huge difference.