pf misclick gets weird
 

so pf was a major misclick.

bb is a very loose and pretty passive player. he and i got in a larger pot earlier. i don't think he's very good. he limps a shitton and c/f-s or calls a flop and keeps checking. here is the pot we played against each other earlier:


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
orange: $407.80
CO: $564.15
Button: $77.05
SB: $200.40
BB: $312.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) orange is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $12</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $14</font>, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $59</font>, BB calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($159, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $111</font>, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $111 returned to orange.

Results:
Final pot: $159

shorty is just retarded and not to be given respect. hero should have a semi loose image. hand in Q:


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
orange: $599.05
UTG+1: $47.80
CO: $552.80
Button: $419.80
SB: $569.95
BB: $372

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($13, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $40</font>, orange ...

Re: pf misclick gets weird
 

I'd call.

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foooooooold [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] What a sick 3 bet size, if he meant to do it or not, pretty nice

Re: pf misclick gets weird
 

You can prob clean up a lot of outs and iso UTG+1 by popping to ~125 here. Only prob is I see it as a 4b/f situation which is almost unheard of. Deep stack is fun.

I hate calling. You know BB is prob betting turn and I don't think you can even be happy happy about 8 of the clubs or even a 7.

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?? We are very deep and essentially closing action plus we have position

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no, we aren't, notice the size BB made it and UTG+1 stack

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yeah not an easy call, but i think it's a call. marginal spot though.

wait can the other guy re-raise if we call and shorty pushes or not?


if not pretty easy call

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no, we aren't, notice the size BB made it and UTG+1 stack

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I'm confused - are you saying shorty can raise the additional $7 and change and that will re-open the betting?

While we are deep against a couple donks here, I can find a fold here.

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lol misclick. you don't have to lie. we'll still love you. i call. we are closing the action effectively. idk what carrot is smoking.

(unless this is one of those sites that allows that...pokerhost used to allow it...idk, on ftp this is a call...i guess we need to know which site this is)

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lol...you think i miniraise utg? mmmm.

also, my read is that the bb will pay off if i hit any outs. does that change anything?

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also, my read is that the bb will pay off if i hit any outs. does that change anything?

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Well, he's certainly not going to put you on 85s. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

And I agree that's he's not going anywhere after a check/3-bet.

So, it's a pretty easy call since UTG+1 can't re-open the betting by donating the rest of his stack.

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the sick raise size would be 33 or so, utg+1 can't reopen the betting as is (unless the site is dumb), so call.

4 bet/folding sucks if you're getting paid off when you hit, it's kinda nice if he'll call more often than raise and then payoff when you hit b/c you win more but it can suck on blank turns. All factors weighed, I like a call better. Please don't fold, wow.

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seems like a really easy call assuming we effectively close

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the sick raise size would be 33 or so, utg+1 can't reopen the betting as is (unless the site is dumb), so call.


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The site is dumb and now a 4b size has to be 80.

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also, my read is that the bb will pay off if i hit any outs. does that change anything?


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Absolutely. From the hand above, I was thinking that it would be tough to get him to pay off big here, especially if you’re putting him on a Jack. So are you putting him 66 / 99 / J9 and expect him to stack off with those if you hit the flush or are you just saying he’ll pay off one more street with anything he raised the flop with?

Either way, it sounds like you have him on a made hand and you believe you’re good if you hit, so yes – I definitely call here with your reads getting 99:38 with $328 behind and a villain who will pay off. Am I missing something?

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hero should have a semi loose image

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Hero will definitely lose the "semi" part of this description if this hand gets shown down.

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seems like a really easy call assuming we effectively close

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Agreed, super-easy call, Villain could have a million things, it looks like he just wants to get the shorty ai and then play his usual passive game. We are very nicely camo'd esp. for the straight.

I pretty much hate raising vs. a CS. No way I want to bloat the pot this deep or get blasted off the hand (although the latter isn't as much of a worry with this dude, but it could happen).

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after BB raise to $40....I really like to shove...why didnt u want it?

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after BB raise to $40....I really like to shove...why didnt u want it?

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i mean we're not quite 200bb deep, but we are almost that deep

shoving seems silly

fold or call are both ok imo

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we can make to fold best FD shoving...the pot is enough good(50BB guy is calling mos of the time)...so take it now!...

really i dont understand what is the plan when we calling here in a blank turn...

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ok ok sorry "the bb is really passive player"...we dont have FE...sorry misread =P. Easy call :P...

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the sick raise size would be 33 or so, utg+1 can't reopen the betting as is (unless the site is dumb), so call.


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The site is dumb and now a 4b size has to be 80.

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Is this a fact? On FTP or PS I'd definitely call.

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okay, so call.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
orange: $599.05
UTG+1: $47.80
CO: $552.80
Button: $419.80
SB: $569.95
BB: $372

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($13, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $40</font>, orange calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $43.8</font>, BB calls, orange calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($144.4, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $144.4)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $45</font>, orange calls??

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($234.4, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $144.4, Sidepot 1: $90)
BB checks, orange checks.

okay?

Re: pf misclick gets weird
 

yah

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Sure, unless you think you can take the sidepot away on the river, which doesn't seem too likely given your read and the pot odds offered Villain.

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yah

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k he had 69o and won. other guy(shorty) had AJ. was just wondering on my flop call, not sure if it was any good.

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Shania's just pissing on you for minraising preflop and won't allow your draw to hit. It's OK. Just learn your lesson and write it off to a failed experiment. You don't have to reinvent the wheel preflop.

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lol