Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

I just got beat with a set of K's, where I had pocket KK and the third one on the board. The Enemy hit his straight on the turn, and I didn't see it. I'd like to think that I didn't see it because I was betting so aggressively that it was safe for me to conclude that no one would be drawing to the straight; I thought, perhaps that he had two pair or the fourth king. Anyway, it cost me my bankroll.

So was this my fault, or his? On the one hand, I lost; but on the other hand, even a blind hog finds an acorn every once in a while. Ignoring the fact that he won, was The Enemy wrong to call my bets before and after the flop? I'd appreciate any help on this. Here's the hand history:

Seat 1: Other Guy 1 ($16.35 in chips)
Seat 2: Our Hero ($12.90 in chips)
Seat 3: Other Guy 2 ($31.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Other Guy 3 ($14.85 in chips)
Seat 6: The Enemy ($15.10 in chips)
Other Guy 4: posts small blind $0.10
The Enemy: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Our Hero [Kd Ks]
Other Guy 1: folds
Our Hero: raises $0.50 to $0.75
Other Guy 2: folds
Other Guy 3: calls $0.75
Other Guy 4: folds
The Enemy: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [6c 9d Kh]
The Enemy: checks
Our Hero: bets $0.25
Other Guy 3: raises $0.75 to $1
The Enemy: calls $1
Our Hero: raises $0.75 to $1.75
Other Guy 3: calls $0.75
The Enemy: calls $0.75
*** TURN *** [6c 9d Kh] [Th]
The Enemy: checks
Our Hero: bets $5
Other Guy 3: folds
The Enemy: raises $5 to $10
Our Hero: raises $0.40 to $10.40 and is all-in
The Enemy: calls $0.40
*** RIVER *** [6c 9d Kh Th] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
The Enemy: shows [Qh Jh] (a straight, Nine to King)
Our Hero: shows [Kd Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
The Enemy collected $27 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28.40 | Rake $1.40
Board [6c 9d Kh Th 4d]
Seat 1: Other Guy 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Our Hero showed [Kd Ks] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 3: Other Guy 2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Other Guy 3 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: Other Guy 4 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: The Enemy (big blind) showed [Qh Jh] and won ($27) with a straight, Nine to King

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

considering you just randomly clicked the buttons in your poker client during the hand i would say its your fault

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

fold prf next time obv

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

[x] OP thinks minbetting/minraising is "betting aggressively"

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[x] even a blind hog finds an acorn every once in a while

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Okay, seriously, how do you consider that a random clicking of buttons? Pre-flop I want callers; after the flop I REALLY want callers out of the people who've just hit a pair of kings with their pocket KX. Right? If not, tell me why; otherwise I don't take the comment seriously.

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fold prf next time obv

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yea be scared of AA

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ROFLCOPTER @ minbet/minraising. Do you deposit often OP?

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Okay, seriously, how do you consider that a random clicking of buttons? Pre-flop I want callers; after the flop I REALLY want callers out of the people who've just hit a pair of kings with their pocket KX. Right? If not, tell me why; otherwise I don't take the comment seriously

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lol. So you give them the right price to draw, then bitch when they get there? Guess you didnt REALLY want those callers after all

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

NH. Well Played.

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you got scammed. obv there was collusion going on with those screen names. i mean seriously, what are the odds of 4 people having the same name only different numbers? (Other Guy 1, Other Guy 2, Other Guy 3 and Other Guy 4) i would email support asap.

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The tenderness on this site is really quite touching!

Okay, so my post-flop minimum bet wasn't enough to scare him away. My goal was to drive out unmade draws, but keep in the K-x, AA, QQ folks who'd called (but not raised) my pre-flop raise. Though none of you has said so, it's obvious you think what I bet didn't strike this balance. Where is that balance? Or is it possible to achieve at that point?

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

raise to $3.50 on flop.

YSCKY

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No convertor hurts my eyes owwwwwwwwwww

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

shove flop

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..... Anyway, it cost me my bankroll.....

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lol
[X] mircostakes br loss

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

I would advise you to stay in school.

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

how can 12 bucks be your bankroll?

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

Ha. By "bankroll," I'm referring to the amount of money I have left out of the total that my fiancee lets me spend on online poker. Call it my allowance, then. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

If I only had a $12 bankroll I'd try harder to not play so bad

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

BBV isnt the place to post hand advice. do it on strat forums

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

Lol. "Don't play bad." Thanks!

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you got scammed. obv there was collusion going on with those screen names. i mean seriously, what are the odds of 4 people having the same name only different numbers? (Other Guy 1, Other Guy 2, Other Guy 3 and Other Guy 4) i would email support asap.

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no love? i definitely lol'd

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I admit it made me snort milk out of my nose.

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Holy [censored]! mods please not this is the funniest op 2+2 has ever seen

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I admit it made me snort milk out of my nose.

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http://www.joshuajmorgan.com/blog/me...-nose_milk.jpg

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

must be a level

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

"our hero" got out played

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Ha. By "bankroll," I'm referring to the amount of money I have left out of the total that my fiancee lets me spend on online poker. Call it my allowance, then. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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"our hero" also sucks at life

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

Btw, what the hell is "OP"?

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aggressively

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That word...

I do not think it means what you think it means.

Re: Hard Beat, But Avoidable?
 

Omani Peasant

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Is triple the blind UTG not aggressive? I'm really asking.

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"our hero" got out played

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Ha. By "bankroll," I'm referring to the amount of money I have left out of the total that my fiancee lets me spend on online poker. Call it my allowance, then. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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"our hero" also sucks at life

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"lets" you spend? wow dude, that's [censored] up. hopefully you don't "let" her spend too much on clothes or eight thousand pairs of shoes she doesn't need

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aggressively

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That word...

I do not think it means what you think it means.

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HAHAHAHHAAhHA.

Classic.

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aggressively

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That word...

I do not think it means what you think it means.

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[x] Inconceivable!!

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If I only had a $12 bankroll I'd treat my girlfriend to mcdonalds

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"lets" you spend? wow dude, that's [censored] up. hopefully you don't "let" her spend too much on clothes or eight thousand pairs of shoes she doesn't need

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Seriously folks, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment. It was my first foray into the real-money world of online poker, and dumb as I may be (see above posts verifying said dumbness), I'm not dumb enough to wager a ton of money on the whole experience. I think we've departed from my original question, which was, advice, please? Glad you're sure who's boss in your house, though.

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aggressively

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That word...

I do not think it means what you think it means.

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[x] Inconceivable!!

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My name is Inigo Montoya. You cracked my set. Prepare to die!

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"lets" you spend? wow dude, that's [censored] up. hopefully you don't "let" her spend too much on clothes or eight thousand pairs of shoes she doesn't need

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Seriously folks, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment. It was my first foray into the real-money world of online poker, and dumb as I may be (see above posts verifying said dumbness), I'm not dumb enough to wager a ton of money on the whole experience. I think we've departed from my original question, which was, advice, please? Glad you're sure who's boss in your house, though.

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[x] BBV is the forum if you want your questionable play belittled
[x] Micro stakes is the forum if you want serious advice.

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I just got beat with a set of K's, where I had pocket KK and the third one on the board.

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no [censored] way, really?