$11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 

Villain has show himself to be a blufftastic aggro-monkey. He will bet to chase flushes/straight, and then bet on the end when he misses. He randomly goes allin PF. The story of the match so far is that I bleed chips for while, then play calling station if I hit a flop and get a huge chunk of chips:

Blinds 25/50
Hero: 1790 (button)
Villain: 1210

Dealt to Hero: XX

Hero raises to 100
Villain calls 50

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain checks
<font color="red">Hero bets 125</font>
<font color="red">Villain raises to 400</font>
<ul type="square"> [*]What is villain's range here? [*]Assuming that calling is really out of the question (because we might have a little fold equity, what is our shoving range here?[/list]

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A6 K6

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How does he play with marginal made hands? Has he checkraised before, or does he usually lead out?

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How does he play with marginal made hands? Has he checkraised before, or does he usually lead out?

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This was the 50th hand of the match, and I'd only seen one marginal made hand from him: He also later check-called the flop and river on KKAx board with a naked A.

On the 4th hand he c/r'ed my cbet all in (to 840) on an AKx flop. I folded.

He hasn't led OOP at all, but has continued OTB plenty.

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A6 K6

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Awesome.

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A6 K6

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Awesome.

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lol, I wish I could narrow Villains down this good.

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A6 K6

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Awesome.

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lol, I wish I could narrow Villains down this good.

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Agreed. How did I not figure that out myself? Bluffing monkeys always have TPTK when they reraise in this spot. Never anything else.

Does anyone actually have a reply here?

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A6 K6

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Awesome.

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lol, I wish I could narrow Villains down this good.

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Agreed. How did I not figure that out myself? Bluffing monkeys always have TPTK when they reraise in this spot. Never anything else.

Does anyone actually have a reply here?

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This is why you're not getting much of a reply:

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blufftastic aggro-monkey

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ATC I guess?

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This is why you're not getting much of a reply:

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blufftastic aggro-monkey


ATC I guess?

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Point taken, but I also provided more detailed description of his play in the OP and in response to Landonfan.

Additionally, villain's line is a bit atypical of his normal 'blufftastic' behavior, which would be shoving, I think.

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His range cannot be determined because all hands have odds to call if you only minraise.

That being said, my best guess would be

6x, 4x, or two spades

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His range cannot be determined because all hands have odds to call if you only minraise.

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Do you find most $11 players are taking odds into great consideration?

So do you think he folds no hands to the cbet?

Do you think there are no hands he flatcalls with? He's check-called before, as I've said.

Alright let's try this a different way.

What (and why) is your response to villain's raise if you have:
1. 7s8s
2. As9s
3. 55 (one spade)

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1. shove
2. shove
3. hmmm...call?

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1. shove
2. shove
3. hmmm...call?

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Reasoning?

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1. shove
2. shove
3. hmmm...call?

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Reasoning?

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for 1 and 2 i say shove because their both in pretty good shape almost always, often &gt;50% making it +EV

#3, i cant fold it to a maniac opponent but am also a little uneasy about shoving it so i'd probably just call and re-evaluate the turn

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This is a bluff very often. With you flush draw and the overs, you have already near to 50% equity, add the fold equity and this is a standard shove. With the 55, Im torn between shoving the flop and calling and calling/shoving the turn on a non-spade.
I expect him to bluffshove the turn a fair amount of the time, plus he likely shoves draws that didn't come in and any pair. The only problem is you cannot really call a turn shove when a spade comes, allowing him to bluff you off the best hand.

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4 5
or two spades.

stuff like that.