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smokingrobot 11-18-2007 11:29 PM

NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
Villain is rather mediocre. No PT #s since im not running them right now nor HUDs etc. Not super loose, not super tight, just about average. Aggressive with some things, not with others, so just imagine a regular semi-nit

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $31.75
SB: $11.65
BB: $7.85
UTG: $31.15
Hero (CO): $20.35

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.25</font>, SB calls $1.15, BB folds, UTG calls $1, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($5.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $2</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB calls $6

Is this a push? Or is this a fine bet?

I'm just wondering.

Shaqalicious 11-19-2007 12:04 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
this is terrible.

fold preflop.

AS PLAYED (it shouldnt be)

lead flop for more than that awful bet.

call shove.

shooot@04 11-19-2007 12:31 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
awful call pre w/ 76(i dont care if it was soooote), on the flop definitely bet more than a dollar, like 3 or 4 would be good and then call shove and have villain here call you a luckbox

Berky 11-19-2007 12:32 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
raise pf

Shaqalicious 11-19-2007 12:44 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
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raise pf

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i disagree.

stu-unger 11-19-2007 12:48 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
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raise pf

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i agree.

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that or u can just fold, then pot the flop and prosper...

Berky 11-19-2007 12:52 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
well it's either raise or fold pf.

Malifous 11-19-2007 12:53 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
Raising 75s from utg+1 is very very ugly.

Berky 11-19-2007 12:56 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
It's not that bad 5 handed jesus, you guys are making PF seem much worse than it is. Just raise or fold pf. I think raising it everynow and then is fine for a mixup.

bknollenberg 11-19-2007 12:58 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
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It's not that bad 5 handed jesus, you guys are making PF seem much worse than it is. Just raise or fold pf. I think raising it everynow and then is fine for a mixup.

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Phytopath 11-19-2007 02:16 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
I wont comment on the PF.

The flop is terrible, what is with the weiner bet? well you got weiner raised, now what?? You made a realish raise so you will stack off overpairs (would have probably happened anyway, but gives away your hand so your chances decrease), you fold out air for alot cheaper, and you get 4-bet by sets.

Anyway, you see being really sneaky here gains you nothing, better would be betting to ~4$.

cooker3 11-19-2007 02:17 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
meh pf is minor. Raising or calling I am fine with although I usually raise. I fold to button raise, you only have 80bb and are going to be oop.
The flop bet is lol, 1 into a pot of 5.25?? Bet 4. As played push as sb likely has aces or kings

stu-unger 11-19-2007 02:41 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
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Raising 75s from utg+1 is very very ugly.

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normally i wouldnt comment too much on pf play, but this is bad and faulty logic. raising a donk who open limped UTG in position should be profitable in the long run. now if this was 9 handed it would be suicide, but its not...

Malifous 11-19-2007 03:00 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
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Raising 75s from utg+1 is very very ugly.

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normally i wouldnt comment too much on pf play, but this is bad and faulty logic. raising a donk who open limped UTG in position should be profitable in the long run. now if this was 9 handed it would be suicide, but its not...

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Not sure, i dont raise 75s when your gonna be in [censored] position postflop if some one calls behind you, but as said im not really sure since it isnt in my game, i could do it with 89s T9s from button though. How does 75s play against hes calling range, since many flops are horrible for you even though he is donk. Hope my logic isnt totally idiotic : D, im not that good afterall.

smokingrobot 11-19-2007 05:23 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
i stand by PF call. its 6 handed, it happened to be my not often loose EP call. so now i did it and im showing this hand down based upon the flop.

i induced a [censored] re-raise off a donk with m y1 dollar bet in a 5 dollar pot. wtf, this is perfect. you'd cream your pants to be in my shoes right now.

so what: bigger re-re-raise? or is it fine is all im askin. i dont give two [censored] wheter you think my pf is [censored].

sorry about sounding dickish, im drunk and stuyff etc. so take out the more dicksih sounding [censored] and stuff appreciate all replies though.

i completely agree, i dont habitually call 75 suited in ep etc etc.

smokingrobot 11-19-2007 05:23 AM

Re: NL25 Trap set, but did i bet enough?
 
also, i limp, and 4 called raise... c'mon, i'd be calling this with almost anything 6 max.


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