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tercet 11-18-2007 07:04 PM

25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
Villian is 22/14 over 150 hands...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($41.35)
SB ($54.95)
Hero ($27.45)
UTG ($50.40)
MP ($24.90)
CO ($30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25, UTG folds.

Turn: ($1.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($1.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $54.45 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $-53.20

shark_fishin 11-18-2007 07:10 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
lol, thats pretty funny line...
uum, i dont think i could fold the A high flush here tbh... as he could have lower flushes, infact i really dont know what the hell he could be doing this with but i would call as i think u beat a lot of hands here.

Schiester 11-18-2007 07:17 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
What do you put him on? The only hands that have you beat here that I can put him on are 44, 33, 43, maybe a slowplayed QQ/KK. Much more likely a worse flush, 2pair or air imo. This is an instacall for me. Good for him if he flopped a boat/quads but he's given you no reason to think he's ahead here.

hockeyf 11-18-2007 08:03 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
Call ?

TheBobn 11-18-2007 09:25 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
This is such an instafold, villain never has &lt; FH here given that overbet. Id guess K3 suited that limped from the sb or even 33. Never call this unless you have such a pristine read, you have to be correct so often.

Profish2285 11-18-2007 09:30 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
Actually you dont have to be correct as often as you think, but Im sure you have the best hand more than enough to justify this. Pot is laying you slightly more than 1:1. I snap call this as this could so easily be a flush at least as often, if not more than a full house.

njdoo 11-18-2007 09:30 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
I agree that this is an easy fold. His range is so wide, and ive seen a people take a similar line with strong hands at 25nl. You have less than 1$ invested.

Profish2285 11-18-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
Please dont use the logic of having so little invested as a reason to fold. Dont use it ever actually. Either you have a hand that is ahead of his range or you dont, but that has NOTHING to do with how much is invested.

bsball8806 11-18-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
snap call. lower flush, random donk with A3, w/e. Almost worth the $25 to find out wtf he does this with...

icheckcallu 11-18-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
misclick? Also op off youreself.

bsball8806 11-18-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
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Please dont use the logic of having so little invested as a reason to fold. Dont use it ever actually. Either you have a hand that is ahead of his range or you dont, but that has NOTHING to do with how much is invested.

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strongly agree, money invested is a sunk cost

bsball8806 11-18-2007 09:35 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
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misclick? Also op off youreself.

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that's nice of you. maybe if you spent half the time you spend berating other posters working on your spelling, you wouldn't come off as such an arrogant prick

shooot@04 11-18-2007 09:42 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
im sorry thebob I totally disagree w/ you here

Villian is obv a donk shoving into a 1.25$ pot, he has so many hands he could have hear that you have crushed, the hands that you beat greatly out ways the hands you lose to imo. If villain has boat or quads dont you think he would try extract value??? instacall here

LegendLength 11-18-2007 10:19 PM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
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This is such an instafold

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tercet 11-19-2007 01:25 AM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
Im still puzzled, maybe Ill just call to see what villian does next time.

AHMWM 11-19-2007 01:33 AM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
insta-call you made your hand and his line makes no sense. If he has the FH its a major cooler and your just gonna have to pay him off. but I think you are winning a large majority of the time here

Jailblazers 11-19-2007 01:34 AM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
Definitely a call here. I think we are up against a lower flush a good portion of the time and villain is trying to get more value out of the miniscule pot. The small donk lead looks like a standard play (for a donk) with a draw. He has lower flush 95% of the time and 43o the other 5%.

Bantam222 11-19-2007 01:34 AM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
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Please dont use the logic of having so little invested as a reason to fold. Dont use it ever actually. Either you have a hand that is ahead of his range or you dont, but that has NOTHING to do with how much is invested.

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strongly agree, money invested is a sunk cost

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this was my first thought as soon as i read that post

Aceium 11-19-2007 02:24 AM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
I think you can profitably call here. A 22/14 sounds at least decent enough to try to get value out of a good hand. This move looks pretty insane for a full house. I would lean towards calling.

Malifous 11-19-2007 02:32 AM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
Im folding this every single time, you have no money invested in the pot and you are most likely beat here..

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I think you can profitably call here. A 22/14 sounds at least decent enough to try to get value out of a good hand. This move looks pretty insane for a full house. I would lean towards calling.


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Theres 1.25 on the pot, and theres no point betting 1.25$ for value. I would play fullhouse the same, go all in and pray that the villain hit flush top 2 or something, im not sure would villain do this with smaller flush tho.

VLV 11-19-2007 04:10 AM

Re: 25NL - A high flush facing giant overbet on paired board
 
I would definitely call this.

But overall I would have raised flop and bet turn so we could have at least some information about his hand.


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