200NL OMG I Turned a Pair but How Good is it? Should I Bluff This Deep
 

I'm running at around 25/23 but don't recall being caught making huge bluffs lately.

Shortie has done that stupid min-donkbet with air so many times it's not even funny. He's not a concern in the hand.

The main Villain is a 30/10/2. No hard postflop reads.

Be sure to note the stack sizes.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $194.50
Clown (CO): $565.30
BTN: $511.05
SB: $99.70
BB: $51.15
UTG: $225.50

Pre-Flop: 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Clown (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Clown raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, SB folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($22) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="red">Clown raises to $17</font>, BTN calls $17, BB folds

Turn: ($58) 6http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
Clown???

Re: 200NL OMG I Turned a Pair but How Good is it? Should I Bluff This Deep
 

I´m done with the hand...

The flop raise is nice but I would do it knowing if btn called Im done. Hope he checks it down.

Re: 200NL OMG I Turned a Pair but How Good is it? Should I Bluff This Deep
 

Q10 and FD are the only things you beat.
ck and hope he complies.

Re: 200NL OMG I Turned a Pair but How Good is it? Should I Bluff This Deep
 

Jeez, even I 2nd barrel here and I'm a nit. $50.

Re: 200NL OMG I Turned a Pair but How Good is it? Should I Bluff This
 

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Jeez, even I 2nd barrel here and I'm a nit. $50.

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I feel like betting here with the stack sizes can put him in a very tough spot with most of his range.

Re: 200NL OMG I Turned a Pair but How Good is it? Should I Bluff This
 

fiddy too.

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you are so deep that most villains will never fold a draw here and most draws have 10-14 outs against you. i would just check on the turn and hope villain will check behind.

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Jeez, even I 2nd barrel here and I'm a nit. $50.

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Better be prepared to shove the river too then..I don't think we are going so see an awfull lot of folds here from a villain IP.

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Jeez, even I 2nd barrel here and I'm a nit. $50.

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Better be prepared to shove the river too then..I don't think we are going so see an awfull lot of folds here from a villain IP.

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Eh, I'll deal with that when it happens. There are also various other bet size options on the turn this deep, I might bet anywhere from 1/3 pot to 1.5x depending on reads, history, etc.

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If we bet the turn then do we actually have to bet riv here?... Seeing as we beat all his draws anyway... So you're betting in the hope to push him off TP on the riv (which is questionable, surely).

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If we bet the turn then do we actually have to bet riv here?... Seeing as we beat all his draws anyway... So you're betting in the hope to push him off TP on the riv (which is questionable, surely).

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Exactly, it's not a pure bluff so we have options. We can even c/c river and send him on supermonkeytilt. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: 200NL OMG I Turned a Pair but How Good is it? Should I Bluff This
 

villan like this is almost never folding a draw here and it is hard for me to imagine that he will fold tp now or on the river.

If you bet here and he calls there is no way i would bet ther river espcially if it completes a draw. Even is a draw does not get there i would prolly still not bet the river because he may just check down a missed draw in which case your hand would be best.

Re: 200NL OMG I Turned a Pair but How Good is it? Should I Bluff This
 

$39 &gt; $50

and it's for value

if he flats, you're losing to like 4-5 hands and all are discounted based on pf

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Jeez, even I 2nd barrel here and I'm a nit. $50.

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Better be prepared to shove the river too then..I don't think we are going so see an awfull lot of folds here from a villain IP.

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Betting the turn is only partly for a bluff, but it is lartely for value against draws. Bluffing river makes little sense imo.

Lol and $39 was the exact amount I was thinking too - how did you read my mind before I had the thought, evg?