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DJSHAD0W 11-17-2007 06:25 PM

Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
Search came up empty.
Wonder if anyone could tell me what the minimum connection speed you need is to play online poker - say PS and FTP at the same time with PaHUD and PT Running and browsing 2+2 at the same time? (I currently have 5 Mbps)
With the new FCC regulatin opening up the market to competition most everywhere in the US I have a few alternatives now and was wondering what the slowest speed is that will work? The options offered by AT&T are 768 Kbps / 1.5 Mbps /3.0 Mbps / 6.0 Nbps.

THanks

funkyworms 11-17-2007 06:39 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
768kbps is more than enough for poker. You probably won't be very happy with your file download speeds, though.

DJSHAD0W 11-18-2007 02:26 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
Thank you.
Would having Instant Messaging as well as PA + PT running make a difference? (not really sure how much if any PT and Pahud are a drag on the Internet speed, but have heard IM takes a decent chunk....)

sonneti 11-18-2007 02:44 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
Poker and instant messaging make minimal traffic.. you could easily do both on an old modem with 4kbps.. so yes 768kbps is loads of room.

a nonymous 11-18-2007 03:52 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
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Poker and instant messaging make minimal traffic.. you could easily do both on an old modem with 4kbps..

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lol. No.

Nsight7 11-18-2007 06:03 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
I seriously doubt it would be wise to try and play poker on an old-modem. Minimum DSL imo.

Josem 11-18-2007 09:37 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
4-tabling on a 56k modem should be no trouble.

beyond that you'll start to hit the barrier.

plool 11-18-2007 09:38 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
I highly recommend Dual Channel 128K ISDN. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

daveT 11-18-2007 10:21 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
Hello Shadow, wish you were the real one.

I am happy to run on about 18mb/s on WiFi. I max out at 56 mb/s and the lowest I can go is 6mb/s. At 6, I can tell I am not connected well. At 3, which happens infrequently, I will likely disconnect. I don't understand why you want to skimp on this when it costs $50 a month for broadband wireless speed at AT&T. And I think you are misinterpreting the plans. They give you a limit of how much you can use per month.

plool 11-18-2007 10:32 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
daveT:

You are aware that your WiFi speed is not the same as your internet speed, right? The 6-54 Mbps is strictly the speed at which you connect to your access point/router.

You could have a 768 Kbps internet connection with a 54 Mbps wireless connection to your router.

Windows will report an estimated rate, and when you are at 3 Mbps it means you have a very poor wireless connection and is likely to drop or disconnect.

RivaLiva 11-18-2007 11:02 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
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768kbps is more than enough for poker. You probably won't be very happy with your file download speeds, though.

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Yeah it would work for poker, however I would hate it for everything else.

daveT 11-18-2007 11:04 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
No, I don't know these things. I still don't understand why you would want to work with such small numbers. I am pretty sure that OP is about wireless as well. I related my experiences with it.

I don't use windows wireless.

a nonymous 11-18-2007 11:07 PM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
lol. Ignore daveT.

daveT 11-19-2007 01:07 AM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
Ignore me?

I won't elaborate any further so I won't make an ox of myself. But I have several questions.

What does dial-up rate? As band-width heavy as FTP is, I cannot four-table without problems. This seems to be a common complaint in the zoo, and I suspect it is from people who are not using the best hardware and software. It is not uncommon for people to disconnect at various poker sites, even single-tabling. I don't see the point in skating by.

I play Heads up for a living, and there has been several occasions that I won the tournament because someone disconnected. Now if you compare what they loss because of that to what they could have saved, ordering the best internet would have paid for itself. I imagine that this happens to these people more than once a month. That is one tabling, with one other person. There is no reason to be running minimal ware when people have these problems. Now add three or more tables with each table having 8 opponents, and I can't help think that this gets messy.

Obviously, if the internet speed has nothing to do with how well the software responds to your computer, then I rescind all of my fears.

Josem 11-19-2007 01:15 AM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
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Ignore me?

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Yeah, 'cause you're talking about stuff that doesn't relate to the question

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What does dial-up rate?

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Dial-up internet access these days is almost certainly 56k access.

For an explanation of what this means, go to wikipedia.

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As band-width heavy as FTP is, I cannot four-table without problems.[/quot]e
I don't doubt this.

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Obviously, if the internet speed has nothing to do with how well the software responds to your computer, then I rescind all of my fears.

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Most of the problems that people face with massively-multitabling having lots of lag is likely to be CPU lag.



In short, the information can get clogged at a variety of bottlenecks.

plool 11-19-2007 02:48 AM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
Ok. Just for whoever is interested:

I monitored a recent 4 table session at Pokerstars (6 max) for about an hour and here are some statistics:

Average transfer/download rate was 2.6 kB/second.

On a good modem setup at 56Kbs you get about a 6.8 kB/second maximum transfer/download.

On a 768Kbs connection your transfer/download speed is about 825 kB/second. This is definitely more than enough to 4-table Pokerstars.

funkyworms 11-19-2007 04:37 AM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
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On a 768Kbs connection your transfer/download speed is about 825 kB/second.

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Does not compute.

plool 11-19-2007 06:05 AM

Re: Minimum Internet Speed Required for Poker?
 
Woah, yeah I was incorrect -- 768Kbs is about 96 kB/second

Kilobits versus Kilobytes


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