400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

VILLAIN IS UNKOWN, LOOK HOW BIG HIS RAISE IS!!!

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players


CO: $298.10
BTN: $406
SB: $496.50
BB: $240
UTG: $333.50
UTG+1: $400
Hero (UTG+2): $570.05
MP1: $178
MP2: $112.50

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+2)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, 3 folds, BTN calls $16, <font color="red">SB raises to $496.50 and is All-In</font>, BB folds

Results: $52 Pot ($52 Rake)

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

Id feel pretty confident with a fold here. I think even at 400nl a random donk doing this has AA a vast majority of the time.

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

[ ] flod

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

I call.

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

eh, this is a tough spot. I usually can only fold KK pre against villains with history. I prolly call here

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

put this hand in your well and answer it lol.

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

Call!

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No way I fold esp vs an unknown. The raise size is too big, and obv he could have AA there but chances are much better he has another hand. Also if he does have AA he is an absolute [censored] moron for doing his best to kill his action and you should bitch him out in the chat.

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

call me baby

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

why would you ever fold?

lol

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

pretty sure its a level

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

ummm.. Can't he have like AKo, AKs, QQ+... against that tight of a range we definitely call. And I think the range is wider.

Scared JJ?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

35,958,384 games 0.060 secs 599,306,400 games/sec

equity win tie
Hand 0: 57.191% 54.62% 02.57% { KcKd }
Hand 1: 42.809% 40.24% 02.57%{QQ+, AKs, AKo }


If you add in JJ, its even better, and I think you throw in JJ here.

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its a level

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Results: $52 Pot ($52 Rake)



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Man thats a harsh rake.

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

haha wow funny hahahha i assumed you were an idiot starting this thread. NOw realize you are just a dick with nothing better to do. GG lol

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

Call.

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

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NOw realize you are just a dick with nothing better to do. GG lol

[/ QUOTE ]seeing that you're a dick in every post you make I see you're the one guilty of this. Just go away if you don't like the forum. You're nothing more than a troll.

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

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its a level

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that said, floding works best here

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

I'm currently playing NL 100, but if a unknown did this at that level I'd instant call. Mostly due to the same reasons that everyone else already said.

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

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NOw realize you are just a dick with nothing better to do. GG lol

[/ QUOTE ]seeing that you're a dick in every post you make I see you're the one guilty of this. Just go away if you don't like the forum. You're nothing more than a troll.

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thank you for your valued opinion and suggestions. I will consider what youve said for about 2 seconds longer than ill laugh about it. That being said... this thread is a trolls bridge so just put up with it you little girl.

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VILLAIN IS UNKOWN, LOOK HOW BIG HIS RAISE IS!!!

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blatent level imo

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

This could also be some game theory sh*t with AK. Suppose Hero only calls Villain's overshove with AA/KK (which is prob the calling range for most FR players). Against that range he's a 4 to 1 dog.

So EVPerHandWhenCalled=.2($520)-.8($500) = -$296
Now, EVPerHandWhenFolded = +$36

So provided we have AA,KK less than 12% of the time when we raise MP1 (which we do), he's +EV to shove AK here. So we have to call this overshove with Kings, just because he could be applying this technique.

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

Yeah me and renton accually h ad a convo about this because a [censored] 400nl reg was over shoving his open in a blind steal a few times for some reason. Its was kinda interesting and sorta scary how it was close to break even Ev for alot of peoples calling ranges in that spot compared to their button stealing range. (im talking about full buy ins here). anyways i think if hero calls with ak aa kk qq its like less than -1bb in ev which is pretty funny if you think about it. NOt to mention if hero only calls aa kk then its +ev because aa kk is 1/30 of stealing range and you risking 100-to win 4 which is 25-1 (not to mention equity when called)

But im just a troll talking here, i know nothing about poker at all LDO FWIW DIAGF DSSD YSSCKY

Re: 400nl - Fold KK pf?!?!
 

Less trolling and name calling. More content