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ahnuld 11-17-2007 12:10 PM

5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
Villan in this hand is 25/20 and a bit spewy. He goes broke in some dumb spots where pot control could have saved him some monies. That said he can hand read alright and is a winner. I called flop and turn to punish him for the times he tries to 3 barrel me off weak aces. River card was super ugly as some semi bluffs get there. He insta shoved.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($1314)
Button ($1607)
SB ($990)
BB ($1025)
UTG ($4709.25)
MP ($1255)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], T[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]].
[color=Gray]1 fold</font>, [color=Red]MP raises to $40</font>, Hero calls $40, Button calls $40, [color=Gray]2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($135) A[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], T[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]], 2[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](3 players)</font>
[color=Red]MP bets $99</font>, Hero calls $99, Button folds.

Turn: ($333) 5[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]MP bets $275</font>, Hero calls $275.

River: ($883) 4[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
MP calls $841 (All-In)

Requin 11-17-2007 12:13 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
Snap?

Darkfolder 11-17-2007 12:13 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
I would NEVER fold this hand given how you played it. He can def. be valuebetting worse and he could be bluffing aswell.

ahnuld 11-17-2007 12:20 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
couldnt I easily have Ax hearts or A3 here and hes still pushing

CopTHIS 11-17-2007 12:20 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
I missread this as him check/calling the turn, in which case it could be AhXh a fair bit I guess. As it is, Jesus, you want to fold that against someone who you even noted 3-barels a bit? Strewth.

Unknown Soldier 11-17-2007 12:22 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
you could easily have AJ too.

snap call!


gah no misread again, back to snap calling.


ahnuld 11-17-2007 12:22 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
what do you guys think hes pushing then?

Requin 11-17-2007 12:25 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
I don't know if you call alot of Axs but your still a TAG (?) so I doubt he puts that much stock in that. He probably shoves any aces up, probably AK and a bunch of bluffs given your description. Maybe he'd be tighter but no more than A4+.

Darkfolder 11-17-2007 12:25 PM

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what do you guys think hes pushing then?

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All sets, all aces up, flush, straight, some random 3 barells,

jfish 11-17-2007 12:31 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
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Snap?

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bigt439 11-17-2007 01:40 PM

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Snap?

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w/ fist pump

your trap worked!

ahnuld 11-17-2007 01:48 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
yeah guess you guys are right. To me it just seems like that card hits a huge part of my range and he still pushes. So id need to find some hands he can be value pushing here. I timed down and found plenty, so I called. He had 22 for lower set then accused me of slowrolling.

ocklind 11-17-2007 01:50 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
yep, I agree, I'd snap call. He can do this with AK, 2 pair, set and also empty.

Bakes 11-17-2007 01:52 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
i don't see how this board is [censored] at any point, nor do i see how this river changes anything really but omg backdoor flush.

MATT111 11-17-2007 01:54 PM

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yeah guess you guys are right. To me it just seems like that card hits a huge part of my range and he still pushes.

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Dont get it.

It`s a decent card for him to fire that 3rd barrel as a bluff though. Plus he may value shove AT or sth.

The Velour Fog 11-17-2007 07:27 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
[ QUOTE ]
yeah guess you guys are right. To me it just seems like that card hits a huge part of my range and he still pushes. So id need to find some hands he can be value pushing here. I timed down and found plenty, so I called. He had 22 for lower set then accused me of slowrolling.

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kinda looks like a slowroll if you timed down alot though lol.. anyways as others said its a pretty snap call if you play it like this against the described villain. sometimes he will show up with some funky straight or a flush, but hey thats the price you pay for deception

Donkey-Milker 11-17-2007 08:00 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
yeah.. he is the one doing the betting on the turn so imo it looks less like a flush draw at that point that if you had bet and he had called.

no way he has any hand containing a 3 based on the flop and turn bets.

snap call.

SnowAngel 11-17-2007 08:13 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
Call tht now.

duh 11-17-2007 09:27 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
If you're folding this riv, shouldn't you raise the turn?

AceCR9 11-17-2007 09:32 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
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yeah guess you guys are right. To me it just seems like that card hits a huge part of my range and he still pushes. So id need to find some hands he can be value pushing here. I timed down and found plenty, so I called. He had 22 for lower set then accused me of slowrolling.

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Pasterbator 11-17-2007 10:30 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
i would never even consider folding this as you played it.

The Velour Fog 11-17-2007 10:37 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
i was thinking about this hand some more, if we put ourselves in villains shoes what is the move on this river with 222? c/f wtf?

Ship Ship McGipp 11-17-2007 10:43 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
you know better than this

poker12 11-17-2007 11:00 PM

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i would never even consider folding this as you played it.

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EC10 11-17-2007 11:03 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
is this a joke thread

shootaa 11-17-2007 11:07 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
33 got there?

imabigdeal 11-18-2007 12:22 AM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
i really can't believe he accused you of slowrolling. i mean while i would end up for sure calling i definitely would have thought about it for a while lol

xedin 11-18-2007 02:09 AM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
time down and slowroll his a$$

rand 11-18-2007 02:17 AM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
lemme guess...you lost to a straight flush and are doubting yoruself...

cbboy 11-18-2007 10:14 AM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
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lemme guess...you lost to a straight flush and are doubting yoruself...

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Did you even read the thread? He said villain showed a set of twos.

TheWorstPlayer 11-18-2007 10:50 AM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
call, obviously. You don't beat much, agreed, but you're inducing bluffs... And there are some two pairs and lower sets that he can be pushing for value that you beat.

coldi 11-18-2007 06:35 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
instacall here, the flush (and the str8) as well are a long shot.

i would have raised the turn though, exactly because there are many ugly river cards. if he has AK or AQ he will be going broke anyways i suppose.

thecortster 11-18-2007 07:35 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
I prefer a 3bet preflop, but as played I def call river.

ahnuld 11-18-2007 07:44 PM

Re: 5/10 set turns to [censored]
 
guys, it was made abundantly clear to my by 12:48pm on saturday, not to mention I did in fact call. Quit bumping this.

Coldi, thats standard, but also exploitable if you push turn with sets and call with weak aces. Im trying to balance my play here.

Nielsio 11-18-2007 07:49 PM

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bump for lol?


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