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I think this one went a lot better regarding commentary.
tell me what you think. once again I am more interested in what you think of my thought processess (am I overlooking anything? etc) than anything else

big thx to deathdonkey and the dudes at deucescracked for hosting the vid
http://www.deucescracked.com/public_...yourface_2.avi

Well I just watched 007 in Casino Royale, so as long as your poker commentary is better than that, A+ in my book.

Watched it, liked it. Sadly I have nothing to teach.

Good video...you seemed more comfortable with this one. Keep em coming.

I had audio distortion and delay issues with this video. Sound that gets warped during compression is one of the most abrasive sounds to the ear, so you might want to troubleshoot that.

Starting at 3:00, A2o isolate and unimproved betdown: whoa. Alien territory to me. Worthy of a thread.
Did you plan to call 44 down vs. a turn checkraise at 13:25? Good bet regardless.
Curious about the snap semibluff lead with 82s 4-way against this crew. Guess the board was dry enough to get it HU and have a profitable turn bluff.
88 at 14:30: Have you given more thought to the ideal line here? Checkcall, donk turn?
You say top set if checkraised on KT67A three-flush is an clear 3-bet against the weirdo preflop capper who doesn't know how to valuebet rivers. Are QJ and slowplayed flushes that far off the mark? Granted we have the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] covered.
Not a fan of bet-calling the dumb passive's float at 28:50 with two weak overs.
You peel K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on a 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3-way flop not closing the action. I wouldn't often think to make this peel, but I like your reasoning, and I guess you only need the three king outs and the backdoor for it to show profit.
All around great play with TT rivered one-card flush. Way to follow through on your reads.
At 39:50 with A4o on K55 flop you were mumbling about a hypothetical call somewhere...
With the 54o at 35:15, I'd fold preflop once the dumb passive pops his option.

Thanks for this!

havent even have time to watch your first one, slow it down yo

you play the pokers good. I really don't have any critiques. I thought the ATo hand is better as a limp against those players because you'll get more action on Ahigh flops, but I probably raise it a lot myself.

Also I thought the 3-bet with the 55 was a little loose considering you thought that player wouldn't give you a lot of credit and would play back at you a lot.

also the iso raise with the 44 was probably a little light.

but none of those things are really mistakes, just plays that can go either way. for the most part I thought you play postflop pretty much perfectly, although like you said in the video the rivered flush with the 83 hand is should probably be a donk most of the time since loose passives always fear the flush and have trouble value betting.

nice video. looking forward to number 3

In the 55 hand, were you going to call down or FSD anywhere?

I loled when the guy in the middle folded to the cap and you like orgasmed on the mic.

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I had audio distortion and delay issues with this video. Sound that gets warped during compression is one of the most abrasive sounds to the ear, so you might want to troubleshoot that.

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I noticed a bit of a delay but no distortion. maybe something happened when I uploaded it to DC. I really have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to AV stuff but I will download a copy off DC and see what is up

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Starting at 3:00, A2o isolate and unimproved betdown: whoa. Alien territory to me. Worthy of a thread.

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his ATSB is around 60% so I definately want to defend here. I am around even money preflop and with dead money from the BB + initiative + postflop edge I can definately play on. I had some history with this dude and I really expected him to raise me on the flop or turn with a pair or strong draw, so by the river I narrowed his hand range down to Ax or Kx. vs that range the river is a VB.

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Did you plan to call 44 down vs. a turn checkraise at 13:25? Good bet regardless.

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yea I would have. pretty sure he would c/r me on the flop with a good pair or strong draw so when he c/r that turn I'd be very suspicious that he just picked up a flush draw

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Curious about the snap semibluff lead with 82s 4-way against this crew. Guess the board was dry enough to get it HU and have a profitable turn bluff.

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yes, if I can narrow it to 1 player I can semibluff the turn, and if a bunch of people come along it is +EV for me. I think checking is good too, mix it up

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88 at 14:30: Have you given more thought to the ideal line here? Checkcall, donk turn?

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not really. I think that would be the best play though in this spot, curious what others think

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You say top set if checkraised on KT67A three-flush is an clear 3-bet against the weirdo preflop capper who doesn't know how to valuebet rivers. Are QJ and slowplayed flushes that far off the mark? Granted we have the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] covered.

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yea really should have explained that. I think that hands that those hands need to be discounted heavily based on how the hand was played out (capping pre with JQo, not c/r the turn with a flush). though there is only one Ax hand left in the deck for him to have AJ AQ with. maybe not as definite as I first thought, I will have to think about it more

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Not a fan of bet-calling the dumb passive's float at 28:50 with two weak overs.

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I think you are right. he can have any straight or set here, and him being passive postflop weights his hand range towards those type of hands. ie he might not raise the flop with something like Q7 or A6

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You peel K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on a 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3-way flop not closing the action. I wouldn't often think to make this peel, but I like your reasoning, and I guess you only need the three king outs and the backdoor for it to show profit.

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I expect my 9s to often be good vs missblade there. I think a T would likely get c/r on the flop

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At 39:50 with A4o on K55 flop you were mumbling about a hypothetical call somewhere...

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I'd expect to have the best hand there a lot, very bluff friendly board

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With the 54o at 35:15, I'd fold preflop once the dumb passive pops his option.

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meh he is very dumb and so is the other dude. getting 5:1 on 1SB I think I can turn a profit there

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In the 55 hand, were you going to call down or FSD anywhere?

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nah
he won't fold anything I want him to fold, and vs this guy I think a 3bet semibluff is possible some amount of the time

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I loled when the guy in the middle folded to the cap and you like orgasmed on the mic.

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it was a joyous occasion. tons of dead money and heads with 88 vs a moron, mmmmmm

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havent even have time to watch your first one, slow it down yo

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I am all video'd out for now

it was fun making them, I recommend you guys try it. there is a cool tutorial video on deucescracked that tells you what you will need to make one

I think ATo is a super easy button raise behind those 2 donk limpers. Not sure I'd 3bet w/ K9o though.

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I think ATo is a super easy button raise behind those 2 donk limpers. Not sure I'd 3bet w/ K9o though.

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yeah the ATo is fine to raise for value, and I don't disagree with it. I sometimes though think that limping is also fine since those blinds are never folding and you might get more action when you flop top pair since you probably don't ever win the hand UI at that table.

I totally forgot about the K9o, but I did think that was a pretty bad 3-bet.

he's like 55/30 preflop and is positionally aware (steals 60%) so he is probably raising 40% of hands from the CO

K9o has ~47% equity vs that range. with position + initiative + postflop edge + dead blind money I expect to be able to make up for the slight edge in hand strength he will have on average.

also I have implied tilt odds if I win a pot from him after reraising with K9o

I probably would have semi-bluffed that last hand. You had a pretty good image so far I think and he seemed tight. If the other guy calls it's probably neutral EV anyway.

You say in the AA hand (around 25m) that you are going to three bet a check raise on the river. The board at that time is K1067A with a flush on the board. Why are you insta three betting here? He is relatively passive, and with the ace hitting on the river the straight hit and he could also be slow playing a flush. From watching the video I gathered that your read on him is when he is putting bets in post flop he has a hand.

I would bet call here and I am just wondering if i am losing value not three betting here. Nice work on the video, and also, nice table selection

I think JQ needs to be heavily discounted due to preflop, and a flush needs to be heavily discounted due to preflop and the turn play. there just aren't any legitimate [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img][img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] hands he can be capping preflop with the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in my hand and the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the board, and though I have seen him get out of line with caps he definately wouldn't always cap a hand like Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], or somesuch

hands that make more sense the way the hand played out up to the river would be AK(discounted) ATs AJ AQ. if we consider possible slowplayed flushes we should also consider possible slowplayed sets

I was wrong to say it was a snap 3bet because I was not taking into consideration possible hand combinations for those Ax hands. with AA in my hand and one on the board there are very few combinations of those Ax hands that I beat. also he may not even c/r after picking up top pair

so taking those hand combinations and villains tendencies into account I think vs this dude you are right and I shouldn't 3bet

Jesus christ where did you find this table?????

You played great and watching your video made me think of playing a few situations differently next time but those players at your table were ridiculous.

Nice to see that the idiocy at OnGame continues up to the 10/20 level.

more people check the vid and give me feedback gogo

I know your sn now háá! not that I play on whatever site that is you are playing

I tried watching the video but it was too distorted with the sound.

- A2o in SB vs missblade 49/32 guy who you say thinks you are a bit retarded. Given your image I am not a fan of preflop. I also disagree on the valuebet on 5Q337 river after he instacalls turn. Yeah you chop with better A's but he will have a low pp more often than he will call K high IMO. I would c/f

- 82hh hand about 10 min in. I just c/c the flop. Why are we trying to fold 3 players? I know its not expensive to bet out with the fd but you do run the risk of someone raising you so it ends up HU with you paying 2 bets to draw, so c/c preserves implied IMO. As played I bet the turn again on the Q63Q board 3-way. You get a lot of folds here in my experience and even if you only get one fold you will set up a profitable 3 barrel on a blank river HU

- 33 hand 18 mins in. I just overlimp preflop with the loose SB and a tough BB thats gonna call a lot getting 5:1 or better. I like postflop

- K9o hand 22 in. I dislike the 3-ball preflop with that guy in the SB behind you. Also as in the A2o hand. Your image sucks vs missblade

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- A2o in SB vs missblade 49/32 guy who you say thinks you are a bit retarded. Given your image I am not a fan of preflop.

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I think we need to defend any ace vs a 60% stealer.

considering image, with him thinking I am nuts my weak showdownable hands gain more value because he will be more apt to bluff and call down light

The guy to your left is really killing it for you IMO

A2o plays so terrible postflop.

But yeah if you can get it HU often and if he does open 60% you are prolly doing fine. I just dont like playing the marginal hands when my image is rotten.