NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot
 

PartyPoker Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> HandRecorder

Stacks &amp; Stats
UTG ($381.28)
BU ($128.05)
SB ($435)
MP ($197)
CO ($344.05)
Hero ($234.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises to $7</font>, BU calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($22) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#FF0000">BU bets $12</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $38</font>, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises to $98</font>, BU folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $227.7 (all-in)</font>, CO calls $129.70.



villain is a good Tag, imo
Is it possible to fold my set?

Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot
 

no

Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot
 

Seeing the CO just checkraised over a checkraiser it's not a fistpump-push. But it's a push by all means.

Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot
 

ZOMG you cant fold set.. but if ever you could...

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I could prob never fold this at the table. WTF is his range here thou..

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you guys noticed the CO was the prf and he check raised a bet and a raise. if he is brain-dead then he has AK at worst.

not saying i'd fold though.

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I could prob never fold this at the table. WTF is his range here thou..

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like 88 and the other 88

edit: and the other 88

Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot
 

set over set is like bearmanpig, i refuse to believe in em. Just get it in. I'm totally serial.

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Why is everyone saying a variant of "CO obv has a set but we cant fold anyway?"

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Does button always bet when checked to him? I think that helps in determining the range of CO.

Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot
 

Because CO doesn't have a set obviously. Probably at best.

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Because CO doesn't have a set obviously. Probably at best.

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Range, please.

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AK/AA/hearts/K8, just cuz he's a TAG doesn't mean he's good. Furthermore most tag's are going to bet a set on this flop, if he has anything that beats us he has KK

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AK/AA/hearts/K8, just cuz he's a TAG doesn't mean he's good. Furthermore most tag's are going to bet a set on this flop, if he has anything that beats us he has KK

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i don't think we'll see AA here hardly ever with the action and he'll never have K8. i agree that if he has 88 here he's betting the flop but i don't think it's too unrealistic for him to check KK.

Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot
 

OP said he was a good TAG, I was going off of that.

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This is AA&gt;&gt;&gt;KQ&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;KK&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;QQ Imo.

Sucks that u lost, but I would play is the same. 22 on the Broadway Broadway Two flop, facing a pfr that wants to go all in is AWESOME.

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imo if he's the type of guy who checks top set here, he is equally likely to check middle set too. its not like hes going to bet middle set because he is more afraid of having the 2nd best hand or being sucked out on.

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C'mon, we're getting like 3:2 on the push and only need 40% equity when called. That's exactly our equity against this range: AKs, KK, 88, AQhh. And I guess this is the worst we can come up with. Plus: I don't see why a TAG shouldn't be able to openraise K8s in the CO.

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Villain's stats are: 19/15/3.x/23 after 300 hands


my check-raise seems like I have a good hand. So what is his range to push it?

AK? -&gt; he would make a cbet imo --&gt; NOT in his range
AA? -&gt; possible
K8? -&gt; maybe...
KK 88 -&gt; ?

I dunno if he push that with flushdraw. Dont think so

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I really really doubt he checks K8 on this flop. Really doubt it.

Seems to me like everyone is grasping for scenarios where we can call because ZOMG WE HAZ A SET. 1st level thinking + justification.

I could be wrong, but IMO we should fold here. Assuming the opponent is a good TAG. This is the key. Against anyone else I get all in.

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I dunno if he push that with flushdraw. Dont think so.

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Of course you don't because you saw him turning over KKK. (:

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Yeah this thread is result orientated to the max.

COOLERS HAPPEN.

Re: NL 200: possible to fold a set in this spot
 

put the money in and lose anyway

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I dont get it.

80% of you said, put the money in and lose.
its strange...

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I dont get it.

80% of you said, put the money in and lose.
its strange...

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Because this hand would never have been posted had he won... so Im gonna guess he lost the pot. It doesnt matter. Mostly I think he will win. So I can say:

Go all in.... ullucky that you lost.

(But I still think going all in was fine)